| sapphi_snake said: @DélioPT: This is the part you keep ignoring. So basically, God forgives you is you ask for forgivness. If a dictator would do such a thing, then he woudln`t be a dictator, would he? It's still his whims that matter most, and damnation or salvation depends on satisfying them or not. Nothing changes. Well, if i believe that if i am good God will take me to heaven, then if i`m bad He will send me to hell. In the end, it`s what i do that ends up giving me a reward or punishment. It`s called divine justice. The laws of society are based (or should be based) on rationality, and the purpose is to protect people, not satisfy some overlord's whims. Your deity's laws are no different then absolutist monarchies where something is considered "wrong" of the tyrant overlord dislikes it. I don`t remember God or Jesus saying anything about sex in a direct way. The interpretation that sex should only happen during marriage is the interpretation of the Church based on God`s and Jesus' words. It`s connection between those comments. I don't remember Jesus saying anything about homosexuality either. Sorry, didn`t get the comment! :p No worries. It happens. Just read it again. |
"It's still his whims that matter most, and damnation or salvation depends on satisfying them or not. Nothing changes."
Whims? I don`t really get it will you make it sound so selfish. You are completely ignoring the part, even if you don`t believe it, that God is good and that He sacrifices Himself. A good person doesn`t havw whims, egostistical people who think nothing but of themselves, have whims.
"The laws of society are based (or should be based) on rationality, and the purpose is to protect people, not satisfy some overlord's whims. Your deity's laws are no different then absolutist monarchies where something is considered "wrong" of the tyrant overlord dislikes it."
Why do you think that God forgives? Because of Him or because of us?
Speaking of society laws, the principle applies: you misbehave you get punished. Its justice. You are just loking at the negative and forgetting that from the religious point of view your are free to do what you want but you still need to be responsible for your actions.
Even yourself when someone does good to you you end up rewarding that person and when someone does something bad, what exactly do you?
It`s all action>reaction; cause>effect. As i said, it`s a whim, it`s justice.
I don't remember Jesus saying anything about homosexuality either.
Jesus nor God said everything about everything. Not even the Church says it like that. What happens it there are parts in the Bible of Jesus and God`s words and teachings that show one way of being or doing things that complete exclude the other or others.
