| sapphi_snake said: @DélioPT: You make it sound arbitrary. Saying Hitler gave people a choice is not just historically wrong as i`m pretty sure jews waren`t given any choices and having a choice doesn`t correspond to any dictatorship i have seen. Here in Portugal we had that for almost 50 years and it was do or be punished. When you do something against God`s will at least you are given the option to ammend or to continue. You're mighty incomnsistent in your views. Ironically you've just conformed what I've been saying all this time, just you're not capabble of seeing that your deity does just what I underlined. It's not a situation where an action brings about somethign negative by itself (example: as in setting a house on fire>>>the house burns), but a situation which determines someone to cause harm to you. Example: you win the lottery>>>John is jealous and shoots you>>>you die Here's something closer yo our discussion: You have sex before marriage>>>God doesn't like it and sends you tol hell>>>you burn in hell. The difference is the action of having sex before marriage doesn't bring about the consiquence of you burning in hell, just like you winning the lottery doesn't bring about your death. You burn in hell because God sends you there, just like you die because John was jealous. Ther problem is that you see the situation wrongly (you have sex before marriage>>>you burn in hell) ignoring God's role in all of this. The reason why sex before marriage is a sin is because that's God's whim. There's not a single convicing objective reason one could give for it to be considered wrong. A quote I love: "Sex and creativity are often seen by dictators as subversive activities." -- Erica Jong You do like to be literal about everything! :D LOL, I knew what you were talking about silly. Of course that has to do with human consciousness, it's not an actual thing. |
Here in Portugal we had that for almost 50 years and it was do or be punished. When you do something against God`s will at least you are given the option to ammend or to continue.
This is the part you keep ignoring. So basically, God forgives you is you ask for forgivness. If a dictator would do such a thing, then he woudln`t be a dictator, would he?
"Ther problem is that you see the situation wrongly (you have sex before marriage>>>you burn in hell) ignoring God's role in all of this."
Well, if i believe that if i am good God will take me to heaven, then if i`m bad He will send me to hell. In the end, it`s what i do that ends up giving me a reward or punishment. It`s called divine justice.
It`s like saying that in society, law is tyrant because it sends me to jail. But i was the one that did something wrong in the first place, didn`t i?
"The reason why sex before marriage is a sin is because that's God's whim. There's not a single convicing objective reason one could give for it to be considered wrong."
I don`t remember God or Jesus saying anything about sex in a direct way. The interpretation that sex should only happen during marriage is the interpretation of the Church based on God`s and Jesus' words. It`s connection between those comments.
"LOL, I knew what you were talking about silly. Of course that has to do with human consciousness, it's not an actual thing."
Sorry, didn`t get the comment! :p
