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sapphi_snake said:

@DélioPT:

I never claimed anything, did i?
Homosexuality is an inclination. But in the end it doesn`t matter or not if i tis, because per se it´s not a sin, but practicing is.
The act of homosexuality goes against the idea of man and woman being complementary, the idea of “grow and multiply” and family. Is it part of human nature? I believe it`s not.

Well, all the evidence is against you, so your beleifs are wrong. As a result demeaning homosexuals the way you do  is wrong.

I sound like a broken record? :D
Well, you keep neglecting all the arguments that show that God loves us and insist on looking only at the price of one`s actions.
Evert human life was in danger, because of sin (the opposite of God). So Jesus sacrificed Himself so men`s sins won`t cause their death.
Exactly what tyrants do: love others.

I ignore your arguments, because I showed why they are wrong. There's no love involved. And Jesus didn't sacrifice himself for anything. And God was the one who damned humanity for the actions of just 2 individuals. How's that for a loving god as opposed to a dicator?

Once again you don`t see Jesus motivations or intentions for His actions.
God didn`t demand, He offered Himself to pay the price so humans could ressurrect. And with His sacrifice He showed humanity how one can achieve redemption and live in eternal life.
Everyone sins. Jesus´ death shows how one can achieve redemption. And God does forgive, that`s why i said before that the principle behind His death is that those who die with Jesus, ressurrect with Jesus; love to the point of self-sacrifice. Meaning, men could now beat death.

Pay the price to whom? Himself? Is that suppose to make anyone sympathatic towards him?

Even from a non religious angle that`s not true. Addictions have a wider effect than just physical effects.

The physical effect is by far the most devstating, and the hardest to overcome. It also leads to the other defects.


Well, all the evidence is against you, so your beleifs are wrong. As a result demeaning homosexuals the way you do  is wrong.
What evidence? Being born one way doesn`t classify as human nature. And if i`m not mistaken science hasn`t proven for sure. Also, a genetic "inclination" doesn`t mean that the religious concept of human nature is wrong.
As i said before, it doesn`t really matter what inclination per se, as it`s only wrong when practiced, just like every other sin. What`s wrong is the action.

 

I ignore your arguments, because I showed why they are wrong. There's no love involved. And Jesus didn't sacrifice himself for anything. And God was the one who damned humanity for the actions of just 2 individuals. How's that for a loving god as opposed to a dicator?
You didn`t prove a single thing. The only thing you showed was how you only see a "detail", if you will, don`t care what the context is and judhe the whole for the part. You ignore the difference that clearly exists between God and dictators just because you can`t see past the fact tha people should be held responsible for their choices. There isn`t freedom without consequences. Life has causes and consequences. It`s not just with our relation to God, in our own relations there is repercussions for the good and the bad and with God it`s no different.
More, you act like having no freedom and living in fear of a dictator, that gives you no real choice, that doesn`t love you or care about you, is the same as someone who loves you, died for you, lets you choose and gives everything to make you happy.

 

"Pay the price to whom? Himself? Is that suppose to make anyone sympathatic towards him?"
If you can`t compreehend the fact that His sacrifice came out of love and gave mankind a chance for redemption and ressurrection, then you really won`t see how important His actions were.

 

"The physical effect is by far the most devstating, and the hardest to overcome. It also leads to the other defects."
You can handle pain and still find piece of mind and at heart, but if you haven`t piece of mind or at heart, then believe me, it will be a lot more devastating than any physical pain. The sense of void, for example, is more hurtful than any physical addiction.