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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Play4Fun said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Play4Fun said:
Immortal said:
Play4Fun said:
Immortal said:


Do you really think core gamers stick around? Something that I really hate the cores for is for their continued betrayal of Nintendo. SNES, N64, GC... they were all core consoles and they had continued declining sales. N64, in particular, did everything that fans wanted, but was subject to an enormous decline. Not saying that casual gamers won't betray Nintendo, but at least they haven't proven themselves to be traitors yet, unlike core gamers.

Because most core gamers aren't fanboys (not calling you one). I don't know anything about SNES but PS1 and PS2 were more attractive to core gamers than N64 and GC, especially with their lack of third party support.

Core gamers go where most of the games that interest them are.

A Nintendo console with third party support the equivalent of  what Sony and MS get would  be a very attractive console. I hope Nintendo pulls it off with Cafe.

You can call me a fanboy. I take pride in it, xD.

Anyway, how is that any different from casual gamers? They, too, seem to go where most of the games that interest them are. It's rather unfair to say that core gamers stick around whilst casuals do not.

Well, casual gamers can go to ipads, iphones and such for their casual gaming. Many of them will abandon consoles for those cheaper alternatives.

Except an iphone costs more than a 3DS and has less games.

They don't buy it just to play games but they'll have the option to get their casual gaming fixes on it.

IF they're not that into gaming and have an iphone, why would they buy a 3DS?

The same argument could have been made against the PSP or DS.  Obviously there are millions of people who bought a DS for the games.  And especially in Japan, many people used their DS for alternative uses beyond just gaming.  Such as buying a TV Tuner add-on or checking the news online.  During the earthquake in Japan, I saw countless people siting in shelters who still had a DS and were using it to check the news, since local TV and Cell Phone coverage was down.

But aside from the Japanese, who obviously love the DS the most, most people will simply buy the 3DS for the games.  And its ignorant to say that the majority of 'casual' gamers are simply going to jump to the iphone for their game fix.  If they bought the iphone for other reasons than gaming (cell phone, app usage), then there's nothing to say they wouldn't buy a 3DS for games.  If that was the case, DS sales would have dropped in the last 3 years with the 'iphone dominance'.  Instead, with releases of DS Lite and DSi, they increased.

What ignorance? I never said anything about the majority going anywhere, but many will. That's all there is to it.

  I'm not talking about Japan either, I'm talking about other territories.

iphones are  getting stronger  game-wise than they were back with the DS. Alot of gamers like to deny that iphones are any threat to handheld gaming but their cheap convenient gaming is attractive to many people who game casually.

I don't know how serious a threat they are, but they are a threat nonetheless.