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Ail said:
Kenny said:
Ail said:
Kenny said:

While it is true that Nintendo's fortunes have waned for the seventh generation, they are in fact in the best position to seize the eighth generation.  Microsoft is only now close to breaking even on their investment for the XBox 360, taking an abnormally long generation to do so, and Sony has lost so much money that they've managed to wipe out all the gains they've made with the PS2, the most successful console of all time.  On the portables front, Sony shot itself in the foot with the PSP Go, and the NGP has given the 3DS a head start of an entire year.  As for third parties, they are just about bled dry, having witnessed a generation where record losses in the face of record revenues was the norm.

To put it simply, forjust about everybody except Nintendo, the seventh generation has been an unmitigated catastrophe.  Many practices that became prevalent in the seventh generation, like taking losses on hardware as a matter of course, and moneyhatting developers for exclusives, won't be repeatable in the eighth.  To top it off, Nintendo's competition is financially trapped in the seventh generation due to sunk costs, and the need to recoup expenses, as I alluded to earlier.  If Nintendo moves up the launch timetable, they put Microsoft and Sony in the uncomfortable position of having to choose between abandoning their sunk costs, or handing Nintendo a huge head start on the eighth generation.

I am aware that Nintendo has substantial challenges in attracting third party support and repairing their reputation with 'core' gamers, but this is meant largely as a dissenting opinion in terms of just how d0med Nintendo is.

Microsoft is financially trapped ?

That's news...

After working for 10 years on it they have finally build a gaming division that is profitable.

Without a doubt they are the one coming out of the gen in the best shape ( Nintendo had a crazy success but demonstrated it was totally unable to manage it...).

 

As for moving the launch table, Microsft and Sony can just ignore that move as long as they agree with each other and transform the Wii2 into a HD port console just like that..

We know absolutely nothing about Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft's state of R&D for the eighth generation.  Even for Nintendo's offering, we have no information whatsoever apart from rampant speculation.  Are you suggesting that Sony and Microsoft would be willing to collectively throw out their sunk R&D costs to make a system more powerful than Nintendo's, without any regard for how powerful it is or whether the market will bear the price of their efforts?


I'm saying they could ignore Nintendo's announce ( which is what Microsoft seems to be doing based on the comments to analysts today following their financial results ) and release their console later in time and as a result it could end up being more powerfull than the Wii2 and still be priced similarly ( whatever Nintendo releases in 2011 it's fair to think that something more powerfull could be released at a similar price point in holydays 2013 or in 2014...)

 

Being the first in a new gen only really works when users see the benefit of the new gen.

Nintendo is going to have to work hard to demonstrate this and being succesfull especially as traditionally Nitendo's franchises haven't been focused on demonstrating the technical prowess of the hardware

It's not really technical power that would push them.

It's early sales, how the market recieves it and how much market share it starts to take up.

Technical power wasn't what pushed them to launch their own motion controllers.