Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr Khan said:

mrstickball said:

kirby007 said:

to be fair, it doesn't matter who runs... same crap different face no?

Look at Paul/Johnson's political ideology versus everyone else. There is a big difference. Johnson has proven he will use veto's at a moments notice on both parties if they are expanding government.

The problem is that we've had a string of presidents and congresses that just want to expand government. This has been the case since approximately 1998 through 2010 (with 94-98 being about the only reprieve).

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EDIT: whoops, i was still in Japanese input mode when i wrote that. Anyway, carelessly throwing around vetoes is not leadership. It should be used very strategically, but when used ideologically, the whole system would grind to a halt, as someone else in this thread indicated

He used it strategically. He vetoed everything that would increase government inefficiencies. He didn't make the system grind to a halt. He got a lot done as governor of New Mexico. The difference is, he was able to fix a lot of things by vetoing bad legislation, which made the legislatures move in a different direction, which greatly aided the state. It wasn't a matter of him wanting to hold the process up, but making sure that the intention of the bills were going to help everyone.