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slowmo on 27 April 2011
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fps_d0minat0r said:
slowmo said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
slowmo said:

More to the point you wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for Sony's security holes so does it even matter who did it?


yes it does because those same people can go around hacking most security systems in the world.

maybe you dont know but security does not equal invincibility. its just there to stop masses of people hacking. professional hackers will at some point get past any security put in front of them.

You give way too much credit to the "professional" hackers, they don't always get through.  As for saying it matters, it really doesn't do any good to go around making accusations with zero evidence.  It is more likely that this is the work of an independent who piggy backed on the back of Anon's original attack to probe for holes they could exploit.


i never said they dont fail, i said "at some point get past any security put in front of them." and when the attack is concentrated like it is on sony, it happens quicker.

i dont have evidence but my assumption is realistic. I personally dont think an independent would take such a big risk. I also dont think it is being done for the money because they will get tracked down easily.

remember anonymous tried to stop people buying sony products but their protest failed? well just look at all the people trying to build up hate against sony and its security rather than the ones who actually breached it. Its possible it was done to negatively affect sony's PR and thats what anonymous are known for doing in all of their previous attacks.

The first sentence is irrelevant as I'm not going to argue what you wrote or meant there isn't any point.  Security can win against hackers as eventually time will mean hackers get bored and give up, that's why it's a constant battle.

The last sentence is once again hypothesizing with no factual evidence, doesn't prove a thing.

The bolded is the interesting part of your statement though.  You do realize that most criminals know they're likely to get caught at some point don't you?  The real proffessionals really don't care about doing time as long as the time is worth it.  If you make several hundred thousand pounds and hide the money (which is possible) then 5-10 years is a worthwhile cost to these people.  The point is you're not going to get caught for everything you do so you make as much money as possible so when you do have to pay the price, it really isn't such a shock.  The people that do this aren't casual bedroom hackers in it for fun usually, it's serious organisations with big aspirations.  I would say this attack and stealing this data is more likely to be orientated around someone independent for financial gain than any other sort of group.  You're assumption is no more realistic than me pointing a finger to someone in the street and saying they did it, you're just guessing.