sapphi_snake said:
If it wasn't for Europe, the US wouldn't exist It's in Europe's best interest to be independent of the US, and to leave NATO. With all the wars the US is starting, it's better to not have to get involved to be in it's good graces. Being #1 is best of course (how can you say otherwise? how can it not be good to rule the world?), and giving up sovereignty is hardly what I'd call a big price to pay. It certainly worked for the 13 colonies, look how well they turned out. Europe could be a big powerful state, with a big powerful army, and NATO would become obsolete. As for liberties, I don't see how a EU federal republic would hurt your freedoms. And how would an EU federal republic mean giving up democracy? If anything, it would do a better job then the individual states do today, especially the backwards eastern ones. As Einstein used to say, nationalism is an infantile disease, so the citizens of the EU member states better give up on such sentiments (especially considering that they are responsable for the two World Wars, but alas, people never learn), and embrace an unified Europe that is the best solution for everyone in the long term (and let's face it, it's inevitable, and eventually there will be a World Sate). |
With all the wars the US are starting? You do realize the newest war is a French product right?
Also... you do realize that thinking the EU should be number 1 = Nationalism. Just nationalism for the EU country you desperatly wish to exist.