Hungary's New Constitution and the Return of Fascism

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SamuelRSmith said:

Yes, we should follow our own interest... but it's painstakingly obvious that our interest lies in being pro-USA. If it wasn't for the USA, most of Europe wouldn't exist, because it is in the USA's interest that we are their allies, and it is in our interest that the USA is on our side.

And being number #1 would be great, but it's not necessarily the best. If being number 1 means giving up sovereignty, giving up liberty, hell, giving up democracy, then it's not worth it.

I don't care if people are richer or better than me, as long as I'm doing pretty good myself.

If it wasn't for Europe, the US wouldn't exist

It's in Europe's best interest to be independent of the US, and to leave NATO. With all the wars the US is starting, it's better to not have to get involved to be in it's good graces.

Being #1 is best of course (how can you say otherwise? how can it not be good to rule the world?), and giving up sovereignty is hardly what I'd call a big price to pay. It certainly worked for the 13 colonies, look how well they turned out. Europe could be a big powerful state, with a big powerful army, and NATO would become obsolete.

As for liberties, I don't see how a EU federal republic would hurt your freedoms. And how would an EU federal republic mean giving up democracy? If anything, it would do a better job then the individual states do today, especially the backwards eastern ones.

As Einstein used to say, nationalism is an infantile disease, so the citizens of the EU member states better give up on such sentiments (especially considering that they are responsable for the two World Wars, but alas, people never learn), and embrace an unified Europe that is the best solution for everyone in the long term (and let's face it, it's inevitable, and eventually there will be a World Sate).