Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
sapphi_snake said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Why do we need Europe to have supremacy? Why would we need to be "against" the USA? Has the USA's reign of terror since the end of the Cold War been so terrible that we need to give up our sovereignty to beat them? On a relative scale, the past 20 years of US supremacy have been the most peaceful in hundreds of years. Bipolarity led to the Cold War, and multipolarity led to a) Imperalism, and b) 2 World Wars, and, up until recently, they've also been the most prosperous.
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Europe should have supremacy because we live in it, and being #1 is best. We should be against the US, because we're not Americans, the US follows it's own interests, and we should follow our own. An unified Europe could be more powerful than the US, and it would be a shame never to realise that.
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Yes, we should follow our own interest... but it's painstakingly obvious that our interest lies in being pro-USA. If it wasn't for the USA, most of Europe wouldn't exist, because it is in the USA's interest that we are their allies, and it is in our interest that the USA is on our side.
And being number #1 would be great, but it's not necessarily the best. If being number 1 means giving up sovereignty, giving up liberty, hell, giving up democracy, then it's not worth it.
I don't care if people are richer or better than me, as long as I'm doing pretty good myself.
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Pft... not to mention being number 1 is a HUGE pain in the ass since everybody expects everything of you.
Note Libya with the "Help UN and US" even though the US has done everything they can to try and distance themselves from it.
Also the massive amount of money the US has to spend on the Military. For Europe to be #1 you'd have to REALLY step up your military... as the US quite literally could be Europe in a war both conventional and non-convetnional.
Given the choice, hell I'd much rather the EU be #1 and spend all the money on "policing the world" and other bullshit, let them handle Libya and every other issue and spend all that money on the military and be the main focus of most the terrorists in the world.
American interests coincide more then enough with europe for that to be a better situation in my mind.
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