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Slimebeast said:
Rath said:
Slimebeast said:
Rath said:
 

Germany and the Germans were basically in penance for 50 years. The current generation of German leaders and the vast majority of German people weren't even alive for the Holocaust.

They simply aren't the same country they were back then. Countries really can change that much in just a couple of generations, look at Japan for example.

Well Japan still has the good taste to practically shut up and entirely stay out of all touchy international conflicts.

Germany in principle has that attitude too on international affairs, it still does, it's just that their green/left/commie movement is too strong to be entirely held back from criticizing Israel.


Germany as I said was (and actually still is) basically in penance. Its only the youngest generation in Germany that has any idea of national pride. On the other hand Japan has still to really acknowledge the atrocities they committed during the war, such as the Rape of Nanking.

Plus, Israel deserves criticism. It's illegally occupying land that is internationally recognized not to belong to them - East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

But Israel gets unproportunate amounts if criticism already, that's why Germany should stay out of it.

Germany's extermination of 6 mill Jews made the Israelis the paranoid and anxious people they are now. And there's a whole world policing Israel already. Common curtesy tells Germany to stay silent for another while.



And that is exactly what the younger generations don't want...Why should they not do something because of what happened in the past?

It is not because Lars grandfather was an pedophile that Lars may not work with children.. Because common curtesy says so...

This all reminds me of  Samy Deluxe: Dis wo ich herkomm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VQKEepak7I

Especially this part (got the lyrics in English);


And I see that the past here is not easy
But we can't just keep quiet
Because time runs on
Because the clock ticks further (tick - tack)
And we have no national pride and that all just happened because of Adolf
Yes, nice sh*t, actually this guy was Austrian
I ask myself what this is all about as if I was Herbert Grönemeyer
The nazi regime has destroyed our future
The Old are frustrated that's why the youth has to suffer
And we're fed up with suffering, ready to show (that)
We start from the beginning again, put an end to the old times
Look at it this way:

64 year after the war, 20 after the turnaround
That was shortly after fall of the Berlin Wall
Rad when I think of it!
7 years after the Deutsche Mark, 3 years after the WC
One mounth we were proud for a short time then we have to feel ashamed again
Because they tell us we have started both World Wars
Maybe we can't love ourselves then
But what should we do, should we rather be depressive?