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atma998 said:

1. Prologue was a DEMO, so yeah GT5 was indeed the first iteration of the current gen.

2. I didnt know GT3 was bundled like Wii Sports was...If that was the case then why its sales are not over 100M units sold?

3. If I get your point, you're saying GT5 is only selling better in a couple of european countries than GT3. So in the end GT3 sold way better than GT5 worldwide.

Now is it easier to compare GT5 to GT4 because of the data accessibility? Yes. Is it relevant to do so? No, unless you ignore the whole concept of a first iteration on new HW, which would be like ignoring how video games sales are working.

Taking that into account, GT5 sales arent impressive at all. It's sad but it's still the reality.

1. Agree but sold more than 5 million... so it's count a lot.

2. GT3 was bundled with every PS2 in US for a long time... the best GT in US after GT3 arround 3.5 million.... GT3 sold over 7 million.

3. GT3 sold more in US because the bundles... GT5 sold more in EMEAA because it sold more... and Japan is terrible with GT5... that's my point... GT3 sales are inflated because the BUNDLES in US... if it bundled normal (not for every PS2) then lifetime could be 11-12 million like GT4.

No. It's easy to people compare a game heavy bundled in one region (GT3) with other with limited bundles (GT5)... but the most accurate comparison is GT5 and GT4 because the same leve of bundles... the GT5 had the first interaction advantage but GT4 had the bigger user base too.

After all GT5 is doing better than everyone expected (even me)... selling better than GT4 until now and maybe better than previous one (there no data to show that).

Now people not see how strong GT5 was in EMEAA:

GT (lifetime): 4,300k
GT2 (lifetime): 3,680k
GT3 (lifetime): 5,850k
GT4 (lifetime): 6,680k
GT5 (2 months): 3,970k

It's crazy how much Gran Turismo growed in EMEAA.

And how GT5 is doing good in Americas (US) too:

GT (lifetime): 3,990k
GT2 (lifetime): 3,960k
GT3 (lifetime): 7,140k (bundled with every PS2 for a long time)
GT4 (lifetime): 3,060k
GT5 (2 months): 1,580k

You see... GT5 is doing so good in Americas too.

So just Japan is bad for GT5.

People here will never accept or see that.