Race/Class/Gender/etc. Do they still matter?

[Kasz216]

sapphi_snake said:

Kasz216 said:

More or less... and what's important is that it's largely pushed by their own groups.  Like, black kids are taught by other black people that certain fields and things "aren't black"... etc.

So really it depends on your definition of racism.

I think that's where most arguements of racism come from now adays.

Is it racism if a bunch of friends pick on another black kid for talking "regular" american english and getting good grades?

Some people say yes... some say no.

 

Of course, there are still also your occasional outright racist douche... but they're very rare and marginalized.

The one big issue with that is... well marginlized groups often find themselvse in the police.

See Irish cops in the US.

Racism... or "the legacy of Racism" still exists depending on your viewpoint.

It's just... less intentional and more a cycle that people have to fight to get out of.

Isn't that attiude caused more by poor education? Black people can't hate themselves so much that they associate poor education with their subculture, no?

It's hard to explain... and better to come from someone who actually is black.... i suggest reading this

http://loveisntenough.com/2007/08/06/when-intelligence-is-seen-as-acting-white/

It's not they HATE themselves either it's... just what they see as "themselves".  (It's also not true for everyone of said race of course.

It's like how asian's are pushed towards math.

Which, asians are better at math... but not because they're asian.  It's because they're language handles numbers in a hell of a lot better way then western languages do.

That and because math is very much dependent on effort.  If someone thinks they will do better at math they will.   Hence why asians who speak english also tend to a bit better.

I actually did a reasearch study on self opinions and math outcomes once.