Race/Class/Gender/etc. Do they still matter?

[Kasz216]

Games4Fun said:

mrstickball said:

No, not really.

It matters only when people want to take it as a problem.

For example, your statement about men/women making different money is totally wrong. It's been proven for awhile that men and women, provided they do the same work, will get paid the same.

As for your claim about race and drugs, the bureau of Justice disagrees. As per their statistics, many more blacks are jailed for drug dealing because there are simply more black drug dealers than whites in comparison to users. http://www.jrsa.org/ibrrc/using-data/data_quality/data_elements/drug/drug_examples.shtml

As per their data, 69% of all incarcerated for drug offenses are by whites. But for dealers, its a 50/50 split between blacks and whites.

In the end, the reason (I think) they are still issues are because people still push them as problems, and complain about them. When we stop seeing people as male/female/black/white/straight/gay, we can judge people based on quality and character, which is a far more useful metric for defining worth.

Unfortunetly race does indeed still matter for the States as a whole. Now, thats not to say ever single person is racist as that is far from the truth but lets have a small look at the income levels of different races.

 

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0689.pdf

 

look at the difference in thoose that make less than 15k now look over at the median income between black and whites. That is a huge difference it shows race is still a problem on at least this level. Why are there such big differences among the different races in pay?

Wealth gap.  I could get into a long explination... but the easiest way to explain it is rolling two balls down a hill.

They're both the same, but you hold one back a bit as it's rolling down.

Then you stop holding it back.

The gap still remains, and it still grows, even without things holding it back... because of the building momentum.

Racisms and Sexism are still a problem in todays society but not in direct discrimination type way so much as the aftereffects or racism via wealth effects and in general, the socialization of culture.

Men are going to be pushed towards atheletic and math based careers when they are young.  Women are going to be pushed towards "woman's careers" caring careers and being a house wife.

Black people are going to be pushed towards "physical labors."  while Asians will be pushed towards certain intellectual careers. (It's why Asians actually have a higher Median income then whites.)

So.. racism and sexism are an issue, but it's a much more intracite issue then you'd think... it's more about pre-built culture then one group activly TRYING to hold down another.

I mean you see white people or asian people in a store... you watch the white people more closely right?

One thing that shows the surprising issues of this... is even black people watch black people more closely.