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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:

While the article seems a little hysterical (and thus probably satirical) on a few points, i would say that anti-intellectualism is a big force in grounding the Tea Party movement, which is sad because Conservatives used to be realists, so they would sacrifice ideology for reality when the numbers didn't crunch the right way (and thus open to comprimise when necessary)

Tea Party conservatism is just about sticking your fingers in your ears and humming "Stars and Stripes Forever," to block out the noise of these pretentious east-coast intellectuals who want to care about meaningless shit like the environment or health-care or non-revisionist history, or how the government should keep their filthy hands off your medicare.

I'd really expect better then that from you. 

Afterall, the majority of economists are more in agreement with the tea party then the "east coast intellectuals."

Even most Kesnyian's don't agree with the oldschool definition of Kensyianism people try and push now a days.

Heck, you yourself pointed out the flaws on why you thought an Kensyian system would never work.

 

Not caring about funding more stuff when even the world bank is saying "Uh you guys are in trouble" is fairly reasonable.

Since the World Bank traditionally has been in the Western Power's pockets.


What Democrats SHOULD be doing.  Is proposing cuts in things they don't like.  Rather then ignoring reality and complaining about the republicans want to cut and pretending a tax cut on the rich would even dent anything.

Economics is a different matter, and one where the answer is harder to latch onto because of too many vested interests that'll drag the whole market down if something happens that they don't like (but that in itself might not be that damaging), but that's not what i was addressing in this case.

I'm not making this up, either. Palin herself spelled out a resentment for east-coast intellectuals in no uncertain terms, and then you have these clearly ideology-driven points of conjecture on cuts, and people who think we can solve the budget problem by "cutting foreign aid" (when foreign aid is so miniscule as to be a non-starter)

Cut the EPA, because environmentalism is hooey, cut planned parenthood because all they do is abortions, cut health-care because the uninsured won't impose more of a burden on the system if they're completely uninsured, no-sir

Austerity is a fine economic idea, but no-one actually wants to do it right (which is higher taxes and less spending, each party unwilling to do both), and instead the Tea Party ideas have been hijacked by anti-intellectual and psuedo-intellectual rhetoric that's just a new coat of paint on the same Republican ideas. It's the old conservative docket, just with the cavalier attitude towards war dropped off (which i'll grant is a positive at first, but they tend to be more isolationist on that front than is wise). The numbers back this up in that the Ryan budget would get us to more or less the same place financially in 40 years as the Obama one (assuming that fiscally unreliable democracy as it always does wouldn't just chart their own paths in those 40 years), just with the burden in those 40 years being shouldered by those who can least afford to carry it, rather than those who most can

That's where you make your mistake.  Your attributing Palin and Ryan as leaders of the Tea-party... when they aren't.

A lot of Tea-party leaders are anti-palin.  She's mostly just used as an attraction to gather people to come.  Since their attempt to be bipartisan failed when no democrats crossed over due to the Democratic and Republican dual effort to paint them as racists and lunatics.

It's this way with every new political movement... or new anything really.

You need name recognition so you let in people who aren't full on when it comes to your ideas.

I mean heck, the newest Tea Party star is actually Donald Trump.

If the Tea Party somehow surives 5-10 more years, you'll see those people begin to fal; away.

 

There aren't enough tea party senators to do ANYTHING, and they are more or less just going with the side who's options least suck to them... and are still complaining about those plans.