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Kasz216 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Kasz216 said:

I've said it once, and i'll say it again.

All the Burqa Ban does is hide the underlying issues so the French can feel good about themselves.

Which is generally the French's approach to sexism and racism.  Close your eyes and pretend everythings cool.


All this will do, is prevent women who were forced to where the Burqa from leaving their homes.  A real improvement.

While preventing those who wanted to wear it, to wear it.

 

Meanwhile, now those women who were going out into the world, are shut off more, and isolated more from society making it harder for them to break away.

Or, for the few who are treated in such a way and are let out... there is now no sign that they are beign mistreated.

 

Of course, there will be women forced to wear it anyway, and well, they'll be punished by the police, which is great... because that's what you want in society.  Laws that punish the victim.

Yes and like the law stated the husband can get a huge fine for it and probably other measures..

Try to answer this how come Turkey who banned the Burqa is one of the best muslim countries to live in for muslim women?  Coincidence?  If it wasn't for Erdogan the future for the Turkish women would be great.

It depends on if you consider correlation coincidence.

Enforce a Burqa ban in Saudi Arabia, and the women will be treated no better.  It's just Saudi Arabia wouldn't consider such a ban.

That's like asking if it's a coincidence that more resturants serve pork in turkey then everywhere else, and women's treatment is better.

Not really, women in Burqa or who wear a headscarf never have been treated equal to men, people
always belief this is because it happens in (former) christian countries where people are biased against the muslim community but even in muslim countries the same problem occurs.  Ataturk's idea was that when you ban the burqa and even ban the abilty to veil yourself when working for state/public sector would increase the rights of the women in the long end and you can only have a good society where women and men are treated equal...  Yes the first years were hard and their were women who could not leave their house;.But in the end more women won their freedom and I recommend you to visit one of the bigger city's in the west of Turkey and have a talk about it, plenty of them will say that they can only live this free thx to the ban..

When a idiot says their doesn't exist an muslim country with a good society he will get the answer that he should look up the country called Turkey...Now the same people who gave that answer should look up why this is possible..

Er?  No?  Again, your confusing correlation with causation.  You are talking about a concentrated effort to help women's rights, and then a law done in that claim, that probably had negative effects.

It's not the first time a law meant to enforce rights led too the opposite happening.

For example, france's "Colour blind" policy.  All that has done is allow racism to grow and descrimination to grow, without any official government official judging it.

Point out that a racial divide is growing, and they call you a racist.

Let me say it this way how come that their are Muslim women agreeing with the ban?  Infact how come Muslim women openly demanding for a Burqa ban?  Is this maybe because they live in the Muslim societies in France and see that the fundamental ideas like 'women are not equal to men' are becoming more popular and hope this ban could help to demotivate those men who see women not as equal to men?  The law helped to demotivate the men in Turkey why should it not help in France?

France already admitted that Colour Blind Policy is not working but at the same time leaders of others countries like UK/Germany also admitted that their policy is also not working..