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Darc Requiem said:

Kaz216 you have the patience of a saint. I don't know how you have been able to try to intelligently debate someone that has no clue as to what they are talking about.


Debates aren't only for those in them, or so that's my policy. 

The more you argue with unreasonable arguements, the more people people who hold that viewpoint or a similiar less extreme viewpoint realize just how unreasonable said viewpoint is and people change their mind, or join the debate with an open mind.

Such circular and failed arguments have probably led to a decent number of lurker's opinons changing on the side of personal freedoms.

 

Debating is like a sport really, you don't get mad when the other team your playing with sucks.  (Though granted, sometimes even i get angry at stupid arguements on the right issues.)