DonFerrari said:
Kasz216 said:
DonFerrari said:
Kasz216 said:
DonFerrari said:
And about people complain about taking of Other/OS support going against the benefits to health and militar research... Did they needed to upgrade their firmware??? I don't think so, those PS3 weren't used to play games... I didn't saw any of the Supercomputer users complaining about the removal of other/OS just people that think homebrew is a civil right even if it make pirating rampant.
And the Dreamcast comparison is really good, put the console that bankrupted and took Sega from console development to say piracy don't harm... nice one.
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If you didn't see any of the supercomputer users complaing, you weren't looking.
Lots of them did complain. Including the US Airforce.
"We checked in with the Air Force Research Laboratory, which noted its disappointment with the Sony decision. "We will have to continue to use the systems we already have in hand," the lab told Ars, but "this will make it difficult to replace systems that break or fail. The refurbished PS3s also have the problem that when they come back from Sony, they have the firmware (gameOS) and it will not allow Other OS, which seems wrong. We are aware of class-action lawsuits against Sony for taking away this option on systems that used to have it.""
And yeah, piracy wasn't why the dreamcast failed. The Dreamcast failed because of dumb hardware mistakes... everyone knows this, your just kinda... throwing shit against a wall and hoping it sticks at this point.
I mean, it's pretty obvious you just want to support sony... because... and don't actually have a coherent line of reasoning for doing so.
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I don't support Sony as I don't receive a paycheck.
And they can't buy a new PS3slim to put there, when the Slim never had Other/OS, failed.
Refurbished PS3, Sony fix the PS3 and send it back properly updated, did they tried to fix with 3rd parties (this are still legal you know)?
And the US Army can also sue Sony or never buy their thing again if they seem it is wrong, but they bought the PS3 because it was a lot cheaper option at the time.
What I don't support is hiding behind Civil Rights for doing harmfull things (isn't your case, but you know that a lot of people hiting Sony are doing for their own reasons masked behind the Other/OS remove).
About Dreamcast, you can't choose the problems for it failure, it's always a sum of problems. To say piracy didn't contribute whatsoever isn't really smart. If you want to say Piracy don't harm a company at least use PS2 or CoD since them got really pirated and still breathed.
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By your logic. One of the Reasons Dreamcast failed was Sonic Adventures. Can't pick and choose!
Piracy isn't why the Dreamcast failed, because the Dreamcast had an extremly high tie ratio. Higher then the PS2 at a comprable time, higher then the Gamecube or 360 at a comprable time.
The Dreamcast sold more software then it should have based on the number of consoles it sold.
So you literally can not blame piracy.
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And Sony supported homebrew (begin time of PSP) and Linux (up until 2010 on PS3) more than any other console company, so by your logic Sony couldn't be caled bastards greedy mofos.
You can't use GeoHotz lawyers documents stating that Sony did take of Other/OS because of cost as the true yet, lawyers interpret documents in their best interest. Sony never tried to take down other/os before Hotz exploits.
I'll lunch when i get back we can still talk.
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That wasn't Geohotz lawyers documents. So, i'm guessing you didn't bother to read.
Again? Your not making any sense though. Also going off topic.
As for Sony's support of Homebrew.... um....are you talking about the same Sony who sued someone into the ground for teaching his robot dog new tricks?
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/02/sonys-war-on-makers-hackers-and-innovators.html
Because your defenses aginst hacking and homebrewing are incompetant compaired to your competitors doesn't make you "more open" to homebrew.
Really, any company doing this would be facing the same scrutiny, being Nintendo or Microsoft. Or at least MOST of it anyway, since some of it likely is due to the fact that Sony does this a LOT.
