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Doobie_wop said:
Kasz216 said:

The Dreamcast also only sold 10 million units. Of course the attatch rate is going to be high and of course no one is going to pirate on a console that no one owns or cares about.

You never mentioned Geohotz hand in piracy, neither have I..... what?

Also, if you could provide a non biased source that says that piracy has no harmful effect, please do, because the majority of the articles that I've been shown has been of stats based around the pirates themselves (who I'm guessing will lie when asked), made by the torrent sites (who obviously have an agenda) or are articles without a enough proof to back up their claim. A 500 person poll from Polan isn't a convincing argument when you have game developers, publishers and manufacturers putting money and time into fixing a situation that they, for some odd reason, believes exists.

Once again, specify the point I'm not replying to, because I'm legitamatily confused. The last post which involved you was about gun analogies. I even went back and read our posts and we barely said a few paragraphs to each other and that was like two pages ago.

I should have said PC. Thanks for the link.

Edit: It's getting late and I should go to bed, you can reply if you want and I'll probably be able to post back sometime tomorrow. Sorry.

Dreamcast's attach rate was high COMPAIRED TO OTHER SYSTEMS AT THE SAME TIME.


Seriously, you can look up the numbers right here on this website.

The gun analogies point, was the point by the way, it basically disproved the arguement that your trying to make here... and yet you keep trying to argue it.  Making the next point, kinda pointless but oh well.

 

As for the research studies.  You do realize they don't actually ask pirates right, they track all this data scientificially?

Torrent sites don't make the research.. they report on them.  These are all government and university studies... and they all say "Piracy has no effect, mild positive effect"  except for one which says "Can't tell".

Any articles you read from torrent sites likely were completely valid.