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sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:
sapphi_snake said:
mrstickball said:

Thats the way I look at it.

As much as I want someone to know that Jesus loves them, and for them to know him in a personal way, it never has, nor ever will, get in the way of helping someone. I've helped out at church-based food pantries, homeless shelters, clothing centers, gathered items to give away to the needy, and helped cook food for the homeless/needy.

At times, do we tell them God loves them? Yes. The only way your going to have a problem with that is your someone like Sapphi that seems to think that any mention of religion needs to be abolished. It seems that America's 1st amendment shouldn't apply to him. Nevertheless, just like my freedom to say "Hey! Jesus loves you!", that same person can say "Hey! Fu*k Jesus!". He has the same rights I do. Situations like that have happened, and it doesn't stop a Christian from helping that person, or continuing to help others.

The 1st Ammendement certainly doesn't apply in those 3rd world countries. And what I was saying is that you don't do those acts of charity to help people, but to convert them. You can do that, but it shows that you don't really care about helping people as much as you care about proselytizing.

I really enjoy that you pretend to know the motivations behind others' charity.

Really man, you're coming off as a know-it-all condescending ass here.

If they wanted to help people for real, they'd separate that from their proselythizing, instead of taking advatage of the people they "help".

Dude, stop pretending that you know every situation in every country that is sponsored by a religious group.

From what I've heard from my uncle and others, conversion is not a requirement to receive aid from a church. They prefer it (natually, because THEY ARE CHRISTIAN) but it's not as if they kick people out for refusing to follow Christ.




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