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selnor said:
ethomaz said:
AussieGecko said:
osamanobama said:

the best sim racer? hmm, NO.

best racer, thats debatable, but still your opinion, and i dont care if you think its the best racer.

there have been countless tests, proving GT5 is more realistic, having much more accurate lap times and such.

w/e talk about forza not other games ffs
that and why is sim racing not up to debate and racer is... they both are debatable. That is his opinion this is yours... my god.

There are no debate here... GT5 is a sim racing game... Forza not.

That could change in Forza 4 but need a lot of modifications that can make Forza's fans don't enjoy the game... Forza 4 needs to start a driving physics (Forza had no sim driving physics), better track reproduction (in Forza 3 it was bigger than real one), correction of cars speeds, improve the use of the brake (Forza 3 don't use brake or the gravitational force generated by it), etc.

When Forza 4 improve/correct these points and others we can debate if it is a better racing sim.

But for me Forza has its own style and it is GREAT... so change that can make it a game not attractive to fans... I'd love to see Turn 10 turning it into racing sim, but that's only my will and not everyone.

And people came here to talk about GT5 because the OP is obviously biased.

This is the biggest load of BS Ive ever read.

FM3 is a simulator. All the physics data was collaborated using the worlds number 1 Mclaren F1 simulator. Turn 10's aim is realism. Just because they make it easy for beginners to start playing sims, doesnt mean it's not rock hard on realisitc settings.

Also it's the only console sim that updates the physics 360 times/second. Meaning more feedback to the Porche 911 Turbo wheel. 600 of the 800 GT5 cars arent the same in looks or handling input as the 200 premium cars. It's only the s im it is quater of the time you play it.

And? The driving physics, car speed, track reproduction, brake still are unrealistic.

Why do you think that is bad? No. That is great because Forza 3 has it ows style and it is fun that way... Forza 3 is not a racing simulator it is a amazing racing game with good simulator features.