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Tigerlure on 04 April 2011
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Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:

Alright, so me and other gamers might end up without the PSN because some group decides that Sony infringes on their rights?

To all you consumer rights people on here, how does that help me and the other millions of consumers rights who buy a PS3 to play games?

That's kinda like asking how it helps people who want to get an education, when a building gets shut down because of a protest.

The answer?  Stop thinking so short term.


So I'm thinking short term because I can't see how this will help the majority of PS3 owners in any way? Assuming this group gets whatever they want ( I assume Linux and freedom to hack their PS3s), thats a small minority of PS3 Gamers.

A)  A minorities rights are worth a damn because they inconveince the majority.

Seriously, this is the arguement you want to go with.

I mean, minority rights aren't important, so long as they don't effect the majority.  Boondocks avatar, and that's what your going with? 


B) It goes on much past that however, since the legal arguement sony has applied is they can literally do anything they want to your PS3 to make you buy a new one.

Including removing things like Blu-ray playback or intentionally brick yours for no reason if they feel like it.

According to Sony, it's perfectly legal for them to brick out of warranty consoles at will, randomly for whatever reason.  If you can't see why that should be illegal... well ok.

I don't know what to say.


I assume you're comparing these consumer rights to the movement of MLK and others fighting for racial justice, etc. That's a bit of an extreme comparison, but I do understand what you're trying to say.

I'm almost positive Sony cannot brick our consoles at will for whatever reason. That's surely a case they would lose in court. This is something we can both agree on. However, I honestly don't think that this comparison is one that would strenthen your argument, because that simply is not a probable result of Sony winning the lawsuit.

I think some of you misunderstand my stance. If you want to hack your console for homebrew etc and keep it to yourself, go ahead. But Sony has an agreement on PSN, and I think it's absolutely fair that you should not be able to access PSN if you tamper with your console. What Geohot did was pretty much completely open the console up for anyone to do whatever they wanted with it, which can eventually lead to me and other honest gamers suffering with hackers online for multiplayer games, so in that respect, I do not support him or his cause.