What Religion Do You Follow?

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@pizzahut451:

It doesnt matter. The question is, would that be considerd Ok on these forums?

Probably not, though it's been so long I don't remember what exactly it was.

So? There are people who support killing in every community in the world. That doesnt prove anything. I heard atheists saying people should nuke Vatikan.And christian religious writings are largerly incomplete, because when Rome accepted Christianity, Romans cherry picked the stuff they wanna publish and preach about so they can easly control people and send them to war. Thats not the fault of Christianity, thats the fault of people.

Yeah, but the people are pretty much the religion.

Wrong. The Church decided to disable education to most people. Lots of educated and smart christians got burned and killed by the church for not supporting church's claims on the world (for example that earth is not in the centre of the universe) got persecuted by the Church during the Dark Ages.Thats why there are so few known christian scheintists that are known from the Middle Ages.

What did I say? Was it not the same thing?

Organised religion is only as good/ as bad as the people who run it. personally, I dont think a religion shouldnt have a ''leader'' (except for their God) becuase humans are sinful, and a sinful person cant guide another persons belief system. But of course that depends on religion itself.

The religion itself depends on the people and how they choose to interpret it. I'm against organised religion myself though.

Fine, but the point stands, theats not the fault of Otrhodoxy in the slightest. I dont even know how can those people look themselfes in the mirror and why wasnt their church banned yet.The comunists used church to get to people. They penetrated it and tricked people.

Considering that that Church has over 80% of Romania's population as followers, I don't see it gettign banned. And I wouldn't say the commies used the Church. The Romanian Orthodox Church would do anything to have some sort of political power.

They were retaking thier land that was taken from them by violence. Not in any way, shape or form were they the bad guys, and you know that pretty well. You even adited it on some level.

Their land was the land they had in the North.

Ugh, you do know that Russia is a secular country, right?  The religion has nothing to do with running the country of Russia. The Russian Christians are in general bit of un-tolerant at people of other beleifs (but they in no way, shape or form persecute them) but who could blame them, after what has atheist Stalin and the atheist state of Soviet Union did to Christians before USSR collapsed?

A secular country doesn't make blasphemy illegal, nor does it allow religious leaders to participate in the State's affairs.

In democracy, people have the right to choose if their country will be secular or not. A stat religion does not in any way go against human rights

In a democracy there are certain limits imposed by the Constitution, to keep it from becoming the tyranny of the majority. A state religion pretty much goes against the principle of freedom of religion.

Just because Germany is a democratic country, doesnt mean the german people must tolerate the behaviour of muslim immigrants there. And I agree that drawing shouldnt be illegal, but yet many western country have to ban that, because of fear. Yup, such a fine democratic secualr states filled with religious equality, right?

Well, fear is not a good reason.

There are fat chances those were Christian-european, possibly convreted to islam by force.

I don't think so. You're basing this on what? Your dislike for Muslims?

Knowledge that was going against the church's answers about the wolrd were prohibited. Thats why people know so few christian scientists during the Middle Ages. Lots of great thinkers werent allowed to present their knowledged to the world, because they would get burneed alive.

That sure doesn't make Christians look good, does it?

Neither you or I can answer to that because time machine is not invented yet. Again, just because a christian had a very limited freedom of knowledge he was allowd to share with the world doesnt mean the Muslim was in any way smarter and more advanced than him.

Most Christians were illiterate, most Mulsims weren't.

You started judging christians first, by mentioning stuff SOME of them did 600 years ago (Inquisition) than saying they were the bad guy for trying to reclaim thier land (Reconquista) and acuse thier belief system of somethingits not guilty of (The coolonisation of Americas)

How are they not guilty of the colonisation of the Americas?

Ottoman Empire ( 85% of muslim world back than) says hi.

Not in the Middle Ages. And I was talking about the Moors.