Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Scottie... that's because your viewpoint IS silly.
He didn't try and portray it that way... it just comes off that way because it's silly.
It's like the case of that giant dude who was being bullied who powerbombed the kid.
The kid was hitting him, and being a little runt sure it hurt less then the punishment the big kid would reply with...
but the big kid has the right to respond.
It's a simple matter of "Why the fuck are you provoking the big kid."
Heck, Israel shows amazing restraint for gods sake. I mean as far as I can tell rockets fire on a weekly basis and they only respond when they are higher in number and/or kill someone.
I mean, how would you respond if Indonesia started firing rockets at you on a weekly basis? Then when you struck back people harassed you for striking back.
(Indoneisa is the country Australians illogically think is going to invade them right?)
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Despite the vast disparity of technological capability, Indonesia has more people on the one island than Australia has on the whole continent, and then when you start to do the math... (though Indonesia's fairly secular and peaceful nowadays, or as much so as a country of its status can be)
But why provoke the big kid? That's war. Hamas doesn't use terrorist tactics For The Evulz, it's just asymmetric warfare. Which isn't to say i condone what they're doing at all, but Hamas is of the opinion that Israel's existence is non-negotiable (and given Israel's refusal to really bargain with Fatah no matter how many times Fatah doubles down, Hamas may be right in their own twisted way), and obviously they can't fight the military force that could tear Syria and Egypt to shreds conventionally, so you fight asymmetrically: terrorism
And if they didn't fight, what would they get? Probably the same thing as the West Bankers get "You little bitches better shut up and let the settlers walk all over you, or you'll be sorry."
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No, Hamas uses terrorism in an attempt to win over the Palestinian government and set itself in charge.
What would they get if they didn't fight? A nation.
Hamas is the number 1 issue preventing a peaceful solution, and as everyday passes things only get stronger in Israels court.
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I would think, if Israel weren't just finding excuses not to deal with the Palestinians, that the obvious solution would be to work with the PA, who is proving more than willing to work so long as the boneheadedly obvious move of ejecting the illegal settlers is met, then once they've been legitimized, steamroll Hamas out of Gaza and put the PA in there, too.
Recognizing the PA as a sovereign state would disarm Hamas, or at least marginalize them, but so long as Israel doesn't, Hamas' way seems like the only viable alternative for the Palestinian people to get some measure of justice, at least from their perspective
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Why would the PA want to negoiatie right now? Afterall Hamas is more popular in gaza. They were elected, as far as I can tell fairly.
Ok, so the PA makes a deal with Israel. This would be a pretty bad deal, if you've read the leaked papers (have you seen those by the way).
Even if it wasn't though, you'd still get basically nobody happy about it. People would move to support Hamas more, and not less.
The PA only stands to lose power by agreeing to a deal now.
As for Israel making a deal with the PA. They basically would be forced to if Hamas didn't exist. Not because they wanted to, but because they'd have no excuse not to, to the international community.
