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dahuman on 02 April 2011
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while im not going to look up every game you listed, games like cs are modded by players and then hosted by the player, but its not on dedicated servers. ps3 (360 cant but thats a different discussion) can support the same thing thats happening in this situation, it just hasnt happened yet. cant really help your argument that consoles are hurting pc gaming


Umm...

http://www.ehow.com/how_5194716_setup-strike-source-dedicated-server.html

http://www.cstrike-planet.com/tutorial/1-Windows-Install-CS-16/4

 

So yes, they do have dedicated servers... 

as ive never done it before i cant be positive which, but thats either something thats going to be ran off your own, home computer (which is not a dedicated server, and also quite illegal), in which case they are using the term dedicated server very loosly (and innapropriately), or its ran by steam in which case it defeats the purpose of your argument.

either way, ps3 can support the same thing, which doesnt help  your argument that console gaming is hurting computer gaming

ONE. IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO RUN SERVERS AT HOME. AND CALLING IT A SERVER IS COMPLETELY LEGAL BECAUSE IT IS A SERVER YOUR HOSTING!!!

TWO. YOU CAN RUN A SERVER OFF A HOME PC. HOW DO YOU THINK PEOPLE RUN DLNA MEDIA SERVERS? MAGIC?

THREE. IF YOU RUN A PC, AND LEAVE IT ON WITH A SERVER APPLICATION RUNNING CONSTANTLY, ITS A SERVER!!!! ITS JUST THAT YOU CANNOT USE THAT PC FOR ANYTHING ELSE BUT A SERVER UNTIL YOU SHUT THE SERVER(S) DOWN!

FOUR. A SERVER IS PC. SO A PC IS A SERVER. YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW WTF YOUR DOING!!!!!.  

FIVE. THE CONSOLE GAME WARHAWK ALLOWED YOU TO HOST A DEDICATED SERVER OFF YOUR OWN CONSOLE, HELL IT GIVES YOU A TROPHY FOR IT. GUESS WHAT? WHEN THE SERVER SOFTWARE IS RUNNING, YOU CANNOT PLAY THE GAME UNTIL YOU SHUTDOWN THE SERVER!!!

lol going a little insane? i never said that having a server is illegal, and i edited my post a few seconds after posting to say illegal was too strong a word. but anyways what i was saying is that to host things like games isps need you to pay extra licensing fees. its called a fair usage in the US and its called something else in the uk, but its the same principal everywhere.

i think you guys are a little confused as to what a dedicated server actually is and what people call a dedicated server. its also a moot point if warhawk is allowing you to do what you think is a dedicated server also as it shows that consoles arent holding pc gaming back


i edited my last post too.

BUT.

No you do not have to do any "fair usage" bs. You can host servers off you PCs that thousands of people around the world use, and if you want to give your ISP a massive finger and say enjoy the massive bandwidth increase. These servers are not that craptastic matchmakming shit, its a full server that is constantly running, people leaving in and out from. Max players for BF2 was 64 players, going in and out constantly for hours. I ran a server off my old alienware laptop. Ran it for weeks. ISP didn't complain, and I really don't care if they did. They don't charge me by the GB of data, its by speed not amount that I pay. I had a 20mbps internet at the time of that server so it was wonderfully fast so I was one of the more popular servers.

 

 

I really want to ask you, do you even know the difference between a dedicated server and a P2P server?

This person is obviously not a computer person so we should just educate him instead of trying to slam dunk his ass into the ground.

For example, I run a dedicated murmur server which is for VoIP for the client mumble that can sustain about 100 people from home, I can also run an e-mail server from my server machine, or a web server, as a matter of fact I run multiple FTP servers all across the network and can be accessed from the outside, these are all dedicated servers. It's the same idea with games, I can run a service or a multiude of services in the background that handles whatever games I want to host and never turn them off and it'd be a dedicated servers for many different games if I so wished. It's really a question of how much bandwidth you have. A dedicated server machine is always on, it's never off, and it's always ready for connection, and it can be run anywhere for as long as there is enough bandwidth to handle the traffic.

You don't have to pay shit for any licensing if it's open and free for people to use unless the publishers say otherwise, in which case, I wouldn't play that shitty game anyways. The strength of computing in a non console environment is that it's much more open and people don't need to deal with retarded dumb shit for the most part, it's good for the consumers but not so good for money grubbing corps.