ssj12 said:
cory.ok said:
ssj12 said:
vlad321 said:
dobby985 said:
cory.ok said:
Zkuq said:
zarx said:
pah they didn't make Dragon age 2 for the "console" crowd they made it for the CoD crowd. They even came out and said that they were making an RPG that people that think they can't play RPGs because they are to complex.
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I always felt the made it for the Mass Effect crowd.
cory.ok said:
1. there was also a mention of bad ports to computers, from my presopective computer gamers should be thanking the consoles for those ports, without the huge instal base of consoles there wouldnt be enough money to go around for the developers, meaning no game at all in many cases.
2. and one last point about dedicated servers, if a game doesnt get a dedicated server its not because of a console (console games can have dedicated servers too!) but rather a buisness decision, just a way to cut the cost of upkeep.
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1. Without consoles, we'd be pretty close to having only PC gaming. Obviously in such case, PC games would sell a lot better and maybe we'd actually get content instead of all money spent on graphics and such.
2. PC game servers are typically paid for by gamers, not publishers, meaning it's not that different for the publisher whether they use dedicated servers or p2p.
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1. even if there was only pc gaming, the barrier to entry for pc gaming is much higher, not everyone who buys a console would buy a gaming computer.
2. i cant think of any games where the playerbase, rather than a develop or publisher, supplies dedicated servers that are used, could you help me out?
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CS:S, CS 1.6, DoD:S, TF2 etc...
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UTs, Quakes, BFs,.....
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COD 1 - 4, WarRock, Warsaw, L4D (yes there are dedicated servers), serious sam, Monday Night Combat, The Ship, GTR Revolution, Eternal Silence, America's Army. Alien Swarm, Sin, Killing Floor, RACE On, Mare Nostrum, Zombie Panic. Mount & Blade.
Do we need to list more?
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while im not going to look up every game you listed, games like cs are modded by players and then hosted by the player, but its not on dedicated servers. ps3 (360 cant but thats a different discussion) can support the same thing thats happening in this situation, it just hasnt happened yet. cant really help your argument that consoles are hurting pc gaming
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Umm...
http://www.ehow.com/how_5194716_setup-strike-source-dedicated-server.html
http://www.cstrike-planet.com/tutorial/1-Windows-Install-CS-16/4
So yes, they do have dedicated servers...
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as ive never done it before i cant be positive which, but thats either something thats going to be ran off your own, home computer (which is not a dedicated server, and also quite illegal), in which case they are using the term dedicated server very loosly (and innapropriately), or its ran by steam in which case it defeats the purpose of your argument.
either way, ps3 can support the same thing, which doesnt help your argument that console gaming is hurting computer gaming
edit: after thinking about it, illegal is too strong a word, more accurately, you need to buy a seperate license from your isp to host things like this
