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d21lewis said:
osamanobama said:
 

no obviously competetion makes things better (we r not a communist state.... yet). that goes for xbl too, also steam could have potentally given that compatition.

anyway i dont know if live came out first, but i do know that the ps2 had the data port for online since launch.


No, you had to buy the network adapter seperately and attach it to the console.  Same goes for the PS2 hard drive.

i know, but the data expansion port was there you just had to but, the expansion pack or something (which i never did)

but with the introduction of the slim, you had an ethernet port, which youd just plug in the cable to get online.

i never new you could get a harddrive for the ps2