Lostplanet22 said:
Joelcool7 said:
Well as a Canadian I can't vote.
However I was against the war when it was started but changed my mind since.
Why?
Simple at the beginning of the war, Goerge Bush said that their were weapons of mass destruction and that these weapons could be used on American's. Now I would have supported the war , however the CIA gave the report. The US came to the Canadian Government asking my country to support the invasion. But CSIS (Canadian Security intelligence Service) reported to the Government that their were no weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq was not a threat to Canada.
I believed my Government that their were no weapons of mass destruction. So as such I thought Bush was just lying to go and finish what his father failed to do (Invade Iraq). I was severly anti-War especially when the CBC reported that the US faked the toppling of the Suddam statue. I saw footage that showed only a small crowd around the statue and US soldiers helping the civilians topple the statue. CBC said the footage was taken without authorization of the US and it showed a small group backed by US troops tearing down the statue. More footage was accused of being falsified by the US according to CBC.
So of course I was anti-Iraq war the whole beginning of the war was nothing but lies. However after Saddam finally got hung. The US claimed it had entered to topple Saddam and changed its tune entirely to the horrible things Saddam had done to his people.
Today Iraq is almost won, I didn't think the US could win and that was another reason I didn't support the war. Iraq now has democracy something I support whole heartedly, Saddam is dead something I think should have happened along time ago.The Iraqi army and Government are close with the US pretty much allies and I think the US needed more middle eastern allies.
So today I think if Bush had said to begin with, were going in to topple Saddam and bring democracy to Iraq, and then not faked video footage and lied to the masses. I would have supported the war from the beginning. But its the lies that kept me from supporting it to begin with.
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Did Bush Lie? I was under the impression that he really believed their were mass Destruction weapons;.and what has been won exactly? Is life now thx to democracy better than it was before? I know media doesn't mention Iraq anymore...but the situation in Iraq is not that good....For everyone who lives in Iraq;.. Mass killing, bomb attacks, rocket attacks are daily situations;..For example yesterday =
Attackers kill 53 in organized raid in Iraq
Uniformed attackers driving military trucks and armed with a car bomb, guns, grenades and suicide belts blasted their way Tuesday into a provincial government headquarters in this northern city, killing at least 53 people in a highly organized raid, according to witnesses and local officials.
53 deads but the 'Western Media' barely mentioned it..because we are used to the idea that their are bomb attacks, mass killing everday in Iraq...
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When I said won I meant that the Iraqi army is now capable of fighting insurgents and defending itself. The Iraqi Government is self sufficient and unless the parties decide to attack one another militarily then the Government is here to stay.
As for is Iraq better now that its a democracy. Depends on who you ask I've met a Christian family that fled Iraq the lady said Al-Qaeda and local muslim militia are trying to whipe Christianity off the face off Iraq. They are targetting Christian's constantly. In that case no Iraq is not better. But I also met someone who was Shiite and he said now that Saddam is gone the Shiite's are finally being treated as equals with Sunni's. Also look at Kurdistan in the North it is prospering like heck thanks to the oil fields and international support, also their is very little violence in the Kurdish parts of Iraq.
Honestly these attacks being carried out are horrible, 50 killed is unacceptable. However Suddam killed way more people on a regular basis. His religious police and Baathist police killed anyone who discented. I'm not sure Iraq is worse off then they were under Saddam, these al-qaeda attacks are publicized and spread like wild fire, but we didn't hear about half the stuff that Saddam did.
I think in all honesty Iraq can't be that much worse off. The only difference is with Saddam his Government secretly killed people and even publically did sometimes. But now Al-Qaeda is publically killing people and constantly terrorising the people.
Would I want to live in Iraq during either time, hell no. But I sure think now is far better for Shiite's, Kurds and the majority of the Iraqi people. But worse for Sunni's and Christian's.