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dib8rman said:
Mr Khan said:

*wasn't,* certainly. Qaddafi had become a stabilizing force in the region after the Libyans disavowed WMDs, but currently it isn't stable, and people are dying, people with whom we are, to a certain extent, aligned, whether we wish it or not.

It's a trap, but one we could not avoid

Don't give me that crap, the rules of the conqueror may be old but they aren't forgotten, it's the conquered’s duty to remain subjugated or remove their conqueror. The international community has laws set in place to recognize this one fact, when Madison said the cost of freedom is war he didn't mean American blood had to be spent for the world to have it's freedom.

There would be no objection if these people wanted a democracy but as it stands they don't, they keep saying they do but they don't. I will probably go to the grave not being able to understand why folks can't see centralizing power as the cliche of totalitarianism, why folks refuse to see that the world view they hold is flawed for that reliance on theocracy - democratic or not.

I honestly believe a draft is needed again proving Friedman's presumptuous wrong about societal rationality.

But what get's me is that American dollars are being spent on a issue we should have been finished with over two hundred years go.

Unless Obama comes clean and explains how this is in American interests then it's callous burden on the tax payer.

Right, and we've been fine having a hands-off approach to various revolutions, but in this case the revolutionaries needed assistance of a limited nature (namely, destruction of the regimes air defenses)

We're not talking about doing it for them, they had the will and the initiative (at least for a time), but were hedged in by their superior-equipped foes.

It's all about knowing *when* to intervene, and i would guess on this point that this disagreement will not be resolved on our end, but i maintain that this was an ideal situation to intervene in, and a situation that the USA had to intervene in due to compelling public relations interests



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