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I disagree on there being two separate kinds of gamers, PC and console. I was, and still am a PC gamer, but got sick and tired of installing games, checking forums to find out why: the sound didn't work/ game crashes/ update video sound driver/update sound card driver bullshit. It's hard for me to adjust to using a joystick, and I still wonder why in the hell they don't slap a marble mouse on a controller for aiming. I use a marble mouse on my pc, it works great.