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Joelcool7 said:
dib8rman said:

Oh come now, okay then the only nation member of the OIC from that region not in revolt would be Turkey.

I don't even want to get into your response it's making me kind of sad.

Okay then Kurdish majority Arab's on the outskirts minority Turkey, yes THAT Turkey... at least you didn't say Turkey's dont have populations on them.  -_-U

Actually I think that is a major reason Turkey does not want to get involved at all. Turkey specifically said they would veto any decision for Nato to take command of the No-Fly Zone. Turkey doesn't want to be seen as supporting the protests and their rebelions. Much like Saudi Arabia Turkey has rebel groups in their country and protests could definatly damage them as well.

I think half the Muslim world is saying "We want democracy we want change" While the other half is freaking out because they don't want change and what happens if their citizens revolt.

Heck even Karzai is considered a dictator by many. I mean most observers believed that the election in Afghanistan was rigged. Also to my knowledge Hamid Karzai could run for re-election indefinatly. With no two term limit in the Afghan constitution (To my knowledge). So he could technically seize control indefinatly especially if he rigged the future elections.

But in the end change may be bad in some cases for the US. But I think for most Muslims and MiddleEastern/African's change is a good thing!

The best-organized opposition is in most cases radically Islam to varying degrees. Egypt and Tunisia were unique because the Islamist opposition was repressed to the point where a strong anti-government voice had to come from a modern, liberal middle, but in many cases the option for change is Jihad, as Lebanon can attest where Hezbollah won elections, or the Gaza Strip and Hamas. Algeria would go Iran overnight if the dictatorship were allowed to step down

Turkey's the only difference because their protesters are the Kurdish minority, and the fact of minority is not going to change. Turkey's reasons for backing out are different, because their government has been leaning more towards being an active player in the existing middle east, voicing support for regimes like Sudan's, and doesn't want to back down from that position now. Plus Turkey's had mostly-functioning democracy (though it is democracy that has worked to secure secular democracy by un-democratic means periodically) since 1923



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