LOL not everything is about nintendo. I seriously doubt that the 360 would do better compared to the ps3 if the wii didn't exist. And hd DVD was never winning. Sony really destroyed their chances by including bluray in the ps3. Their best chance was to drag it on until combo players were common. And no microsoft could not have made the 360 with default hd DVD drive. One year after the xbox launch Sony wasnt able to get enough blue lasers ms couldn't have done this 2005. And adding it later would be pointless. Its a console.