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Dr.Grass on 17 March 2011
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Kantor said:
Dr.Grass said:
ManusJustus said:
Dr.Grass said:

If you studied the Special Theory of Relativity you would say the same thing about physicists.

Yet Einstein's theory accurately predict the world around us, whereas the story of Noah's Ark is pure fantasy.


The point is that what reality has nothing to do with what we would describe as 'plausible'. You cannot dismiss something simply because it sounds too fantastic to be true - none of the great minds of our time have done that.

You can, however, dismiss it (but not forget it altogether) when there is an alternative with considerable amounts of scientific evidence that makes a lot more sense (at the macroscopic level, please don't go into quantum theory and how nothing makes sense anyway).

There is about as much evidence for Noah's Ark as for the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Are you willing to consider the latter as a scientific theory?

Hehehe I will spare you the QM :P  Actually, people who actually do QM are far less enthusiastic to have a ''What the Bleep do we Know?'' conversation. Its usually the new-agers that jump on that boat.

I do get what you are saying. That is a good argument against religion imo. You consider the amount of elements that are 'proven' true or make sense in a given structure of logic (lets say science), and then if the are mutually dependent you can consider them as a unique model. If another structure (lets say religion X) contains elements that violate the aforementioned model then one has substantial evidence against the latter (religion X). 

This is my problem with what is mostly taught by religion. That there is no coherent sense behind it. And surely, surely the Allmighty and powerful Creator of everything could do better than that!

What I used to do when I was young and looked at the Bible (I had to go to Church every Sunday since the age of 7) was to imagine what a scripture should look like that came from God. It should be faultless in its presentation. Mesmerising in its beauty, and coherent in its logic. For me the Bible never stacked up (though there is merit in the scripture). To be quite frank, I though:''Why the hell if we only get ONE book and are there some parts that don't seem to offer any purpose!?'' Nevermind the fact that it's not always so clear what is meant. I sure as hell wouldn't leave a scripture like that for my beloved man  if that's all he was supposed to ever get. Surely a scripture from God should be able to stimulate the intelligence those that are looking for that...