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greenmedic88 on 15 March 2011
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dsister said:
greenmedic88 said:

Do we need a chart to make the whole updated firmware concept easier to understand? Older firmware uses more system RAM. Older games have less system RAM available to run. Newer firmware uses less system RAM. Newer games written to run on newer firmware may use that now unallocated system RAM to run optimally, or in some cases run at all as they won't run with less system RAM.

This is just one of many reasons for updated firmware and the reason why any game requiring updated firmware (whether it's to make use of freed up system RAM, security measures, whatever; it's irrelevant so long as it runs) would have the updater on the game disk. Nobody's liable because an end user can't run new software on an older version of a no longer supported (any previous firmware) version of the OS.

Disagree? Then reference a case that shows how any new software written for Windows or Mac OS for example, must run on any previous version of an operating system with the idea that Microsoft or Apple is legally liable if it doesn't.

Ok, yes, the firmware released hs changed the lanscape of the PS3. But, if someone supports the PS3 better then Sony it should be within your rights as the consumer to switch to them. If someone gives me the ability to play PS2 games, run otherOS, better media capabilities, English patches for Japanese games(ToV is getting one, or so I've heard :)), and even games that are only playable on cfw. Whereas Sony only seems to be taking away features. Who do you think I'll be going to? 

Yes, It's nice and all to go yelling at these people calling them cheaters, thieves, and pirates. And cheering as Sony is trys to financially ruin their lives. I hope you have fun on consoles that are tied to one company next gen... I'm just glad you aren't a fan of Operating Systems. Would hate for you to call foul when someone tries to bring an alternative to it...

Your hypothetical makes no sense. The PS3 is a gaming machines(more now then ever). PCs are upgradeable, MS can't tell people to support every operating system they released. And you fully expect for your operating system to become out of date and no longer play PC games. Not so for the PS3, it's sole job should be to play PS3 games. If it can't do that then it fail 

You missed the point.

Every game published for the PS3 plays on any PS3 with the most current firmware update.

Every game published for the PS3 will not play on any version of the PS3 firmware for reasons explained (twice). Not only is SCE not liable for newer games not running properly or at all on older, unsupported firmware (games that require firmware updates have the latest firmware update on the disk to install without a network connection), but it's not even possible for certain games that make use of updates made to current firmware (such as more free memory) run at all. That's one of many reasons for the firmware updates.

Before anyone wants to make up some claim that SCE is legally obligated to make any game run on any version of any firmware update released by SCE, they can stop right there as SCE is not, any more than Microsoft is legally obligated to have current versions of any software run on older, unsupported versions of their operating system.

Is anyone else not grasping this very simple concept?