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kowenicki said:
Reasonable said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

It is certainly a huge success in the United States, I actualy hear people talking about it the same way they used to for the Wii. But as successful as it has been, it hasnt affected the sale of the other consoles, it has actually help. 


How so...?

only the 360 is up YOY.  Both Wii and PS3 are down.

Wii sales are massively down.

So yes, it has affected other console sales.


No he's right.  There is no sign of PS3 and Wii having different sales patterns since Kinect launch.  PS3 is down vs it's own peak from previous year when Slim launched but it's trending the same after Kinect as before.  Same for Wii really.  For Kinect to have affected them their sales patterns should have changed right after Kinect launched, but they didn't in any noticable way.

Wii was trending that way before Kinect launched and was PS3.

I can go with the PS3... 

but the Wii sales are affected...


But look how the Wii did in US over the holidays?  I might be wrong - and happy to be corrected - but wasn't Wii trending right in the direction it was before Kinect?

I mean, I do expect Kinect to slowly have an effect on Wii in US and this will be year to see it, but right now there's so little sign of that.

By the way I'm not knocking anything here, particulary not Kinect which has been an astonishing success and has sold beyond what I freely admit was the ceiling I thought the high price set for it.  I'm just noting how Kinect seems to be a huge success for MS but doesn't seem to have impacted the other consoles much either.

I'm just amazed at how the market seems able to support these consoles and how the 360 and PS3 can continue to cut price, add stuff and get annual boosts and sell masses of the same titles - such as CoD - without seeming to overly dent the other console.

While they all have ups/downs, with the Wii in particular seeming to be on the downward tail of its lifecycle curve, they all seem able to continue with only minimal effects on the other.  Quite amazing really as historically I've always understood this never happens past a certain point of a clear victor emerging.

Of course, I think the clear fragmentation of the global market is playing a part in this.  By region you can see favourites and clearer leaders, but when you add it all up it all seems to balance out.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...