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sapphi_snake said:

mrstickball said:

Seriously? Linking a study done by an organisation like Focus on the Family? (and for your information this was just my first ad-hominem attack on this topic, and it's not a logical fallacy, as it's only logical to question to sources that you linked, which are obvious biased right wing organisations with an agenda). And what do those links have to do with sex before marriage? None of those studies show that people who have sex before marriage are more likely to divorce (or that the having sex veofre marriage part leads to the divorce part). It's just anti-divorce propaganda that aims to manipulate people to stay in miserable marriages.

Considering the sources of those studies you linked, and the fact that they're based on the typical logical error I previously noted, there's not much to them (except the third link, though I wonder if the "positive" effects of seing mommy and daddy fight and scream at eachother all the time help children in any way). I'm not rejecting them because I disagree with their conclusion, I disagree with them because they're based on logical errors, and they have a propagandistic purpose (especially considering their sources).

 

The dangers of smoking are drawn by the very activity, as smoking destroys your lungs, plain and simple. When talking about the "dangers" of sex before marriage - which can also be the dangers of sex after marriage if adultery exists - a more valid comparison would be with the risks of horse back riding, or driving a car - in all 3 cases carelessness could lead to grave consiquences, however in none of the 3 cases are negative consiquences mandatory outcomes, and more often then not, they're not. They only happen if you're not carefull, and are not inherent to the 3 activities mentioned (the negative outcomes of smoking are inherent).  The negative consiquences can only happen if you're not careful and are not reasons to not do the 3 actions I mentioned - sex, horse back riding and driving a car.

Here you go: http://healthland.time.com/2011/03/04/why-having-kids-is-foolish/

Enjoy.

(I will not be writing such long posts in the future)

Well Sapphi generally when a study is conducted it is always done so with some sort of bias. The organisation funding the study is hoping that it will support their ideologies and their for they do the study. Now I myself don't listen to a thing Focus on the Family says but their studies are probably accuracte, maybe portrayed alittle wrong but still quite accurate (Though I never read the study). I find that Focus on the Family usually tries to sell their products in almost everything they do, however that doesn't mean they are always wrong they just need to be taken with a grain of salt.

But say planned parenthood released a study about the benefits of abortion. You would probably link to it as proof to support your ideology. Yet Planned Parent Hood would have an obvious bias, the study may be legit but it would be slanted to Planned Parent Hood's point of view.

The only organisation which I listen to studies from is the United Nations and even then China, US and Russia mold everything that those studies say. Your never going to find a study without a bias, if you find a study supporting your views their will be another half dozen supporting the opposers views.

Also as for this is driving a car a sin because it causes harm? Well cars didn't exist in the Bible time however I bet if the Bible was written today then driving cars would probably be sinful yes. Note that the Amish and many mennonites believe that driving vehicles is sinful. More moderate Christian's try not to think about it.

But think for a second, you turn the car on you burn fossil fuels damaging the enviroment, air supply and aruably causing global warming. The roads you drive on destroyed forests and pumped thousands of chemicals into the air while being produced from the factory to the pavement. Then you hit animals constantly almost everyone who drives has killed an animal or two for no apparent reason. Then the fact that car's can crash and kill other people is also a factor.

So is driving a sin? Its most definatly a sin against nature and  bad for the majority of people.

I myself don't drive, I try to cut down my carbon foot print. In my city I can walk to most big stores and can take public transit to most others. The few times I do get in a car its in a carpool. I do think the Amish probably are on the right track, however I think it would be another sin just like lieng.

You lied today, statistically speaking we lie all the time, exagerate the truth. We gossip almost daily. Sapphi get the fact in your head, everyone sins a sexual sin should be treated no different then any other sin. You repent and try to do as little as possible but the fact of the matter is we are just human and its human nature to sin.

I find it funny in your post to Kaz you mention that its not in human's nature to help others. Thats because human nature is sinful. This was caused when Adam took a bite from a peice of fruit of the tree of Knowledge, the forbidden fruit in the garden.

You see it yourself your just in denial lol (Sorry if that offends you). But the Bible specifically says those who are against the faith are blinded by their endeavers. You my friend are one of those blinded.