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theprof00 said:
bannedagain said:
Ail said:
bannedagain said:

Heres the deal, I didn't to sh-t. GEOHOT DID, not me. SO thats my deal . THere you go, no need to enter my car, nothing illegal or my space or even have damn number. I disagree with you. Your using guilty situations to prove your points when I did nothing to have guilt.

What next, are you going to sue the NSA for reading your e-mail and listening to your cellphones calls ???????

Besides Sony isn't asking for your data, it asks for those ISPs to give their customer data ( which you happen to be one if you visited the site...). If you don't want to leave a trace on the internet, don't go on the internet, because every frigging site keeps a record of your visit and the federal government in certain case can even ask your ISP for access to every data you send through it..........

Same thing when a bank is under investigations and a judge asks them to provide the name of all their account holders to the prosecutor. Doesn't mean everyone of them is a criminal....

You do realize that half the mods on this site can see your IP and they could post it and not get into any kind of trouble right ???????

YOu too don't get it. I choose to come to this site. I didn't choose to go to anything sony. get it.

WHY would anything sony seem bad to either of you, It wouldn't. thats why I'm done with you both.

WOW if MS did this you would both have sh-t fit and I've seen MS do less and this site go nuts about it.

Look. I do love Sony. But I'm not above rational thinking. I love Microsoft's marketing division. If I could get a job within MS marketing, I'd be incredibly happy. If I ould get a job with Nintendo helping design innovative controls and games, the same. I love all those companies in unique ways. I do have problems with all three however. I have a major problem with Sony's marketing, I have a major problem with MS' quality control, and I have a major problem with Nintendo's strategy and support.

This is not a "fanboy" issue.

I'm trying my hardest to explain to you, and I don't know whether I should continue. I'm going to just restate what has been said already.

Your IP is being used to show that Geohot has had contact with people. You didn't do anything wrong and Sony is not saying you have done anything wrong. They will additionally not use this IP list to shut down anyone's PS3 who DID download the crack. They will not do this for one reason: It is illegal to do so. They cannot do ANYTHING with these IPs besides what the judge has allowed, and that is two very explicit conditions. 1. To prove Geohot has had contact with people. 2. To show WHERE in the US a lot of these people live so that they can move jurisdiction from NJ to CA. You have every right to take issue with that second one, and I will not argue that with you other than telling you that it is their legal right to do so.

You cannot just say, "they cannot have it". That is not the way the world works. If it did, pedophilia and internet drug trading among many other illegal activities would become burgeoning enterprises. People could plan your death online, and you could do nothing about it.

What I understand is that you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want the law to work for you, but not for others. 

Sony has every legal right to look at where these IPs are coming from, but outside of that (and I cannot stress this enough) they have no legal rights to do ANYTHING with those IPs. Consumers are protected from that, and from what I gather, that is what you are FOR. I really don't understand how you are upset when there is nothing contradictive to your own beliefs. They have your IP to prove that Geohot has had contact in one form or another with other people. That is IT. That is Sony's "grand scheme"; to do something that is 100% legal (not corrupted justice) and how the law is intended to work.

Sony has not "bought" any judges or courts or verdicts. Without the IPs they cannot prove that Geohot contacted people. Obviously, in a perfect world, one could ASSUME that he did. A judge could say, "well he's been in the news saying that he released the code, and he's twittered people, therefore he's guilty". It doesn't and shouldn't work that way. You need PROOF.

Here's an example. When the boston strangler was around, many many people were just walking in off the street saying that they were the Boston strangler when they weren't. The court system needs PROOF. They need to be proven "BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT" that the action occurred. Someone could always be lying, like the people claiming that hackers can unban themselves. Sure you can "say" that you have that ability. But, do you REALLY have that ability. You can't just convict someone for saying that they did something.

That is what the IPs are for. That is the end of the extent of the IPs use. 

Insofar that you think they can use the IPs for anything else, you would also be wrong. They cannot create any new cases based on information that they gained from IPs that are to be specifically used for something else. According to the law, if you asked for a sandwich (IPs), and your reason was so that you can eat it (proof of contact), you cannot use it to feed birds (give IPs to other people), or look at the ingredients (invade IP privacy). You can eat it, and that's it.

With that, I'm done. 

If anyone else wants to be so hardheaded that they will skip this post and just post their own fantastical ideas about how this is corruption or the beginning of the New World Order, then they can do that. I just want them to make sure they don't forget their tin-foil hats.

THis is just for you, I DID NOT READ NON OF THAT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. yoU WASTED YOUR TIME. LOL @ U

EDIT: This post has been quote-trimmed, and moderated for spamming. -d1