| The_vagabond7 said: That's just apologetics kasz, to bring christianity into something less reprehensible to the modern zeitgeist. It's liberal christianity, which is merely an attempt to make christianity more palatable. And you and slimebeast would probably disagree with some of the finer points of the implications you are making. Will there be gays in heaven, or paradise, or whatever? Can a man fuck other men and love jesus and be rewarded for it? Or will they be punished for their unabashed refusal to conform to god's standards? We all in some way steal or lie on a regular basis, can someone like that get out of hell or whatever punishment? Depending on if you're liberal or conservative your view of those things are going to differ. Well of course you can get into heaven even if you lie on occasion, god is merciful. But you're totally going to hell if you have a cock and suck them too. The scriptures refer to homosexuality as an abomination. Unless you're liberal, then just understand that we're all abominations in god's eyes and be a good person and god loves you.
There are plenty of heros in the bible that fornicate, steal, lie, murder, commit incest, polygamy, get drunk, are idolaters and are still considered heroes for following god, good righteous men. There is not a single example of a gay or lesbian in the bible that is spoken of as being a true worshipper of god. Any time gays make an appearance it's only to show how dispicable and beastly they are. To say that the bible considers homosexuality the same as stealing or having sex for pleasure is disingenuous and is merely a way of trying to meet the more tolerant zeitgeist halfway. Which as calvin (from calvin and hobbes) once said "A good compromise leaves everyone upset". Gays are still an abomination, but really aren't we all? Which leaves both gays and conservative christians furrowing their brows. |
Having sex before marriage and not trying to have a child is treated just as poorly. That the bible has flawed hereos doesn't make that any less so.
That the bible doesn't have any gay heroes is only damning if you take the positon that the bible is wholey fictional.
Though as an aside. When it comes to killing.
That's not a sin... though it's translated "Though Shall not Kill" a more direjct translation is "Though Shalt not Murder."
