Islam is not bad, too many of you are ignorant of history.

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dib8rman said:

Regardless of what you believe or those of like mind believe doesn't change the fact that Islam is responsible for the deaths of 3000 Americans, that it is the Republic of America's duty and the people of America's duty to know the enemy and go for it's throat. The conflicting part is that the enemy is two folds, one being the rabid socialists who see Islam as their father land and rest their hopes of a crippled democratic free-market in the bosoms of Islam and the Islamic fundamentalists who see polarizing the west as a way to unite Arabia.

This does reveal that your hypocrisy knows no bounds, that you are willing to say that today’s Islamic countries recognize the Hadiths and not the Qur'an for their policy making and that that needs to be put to and end because the Qur'an is by your allegation peaceful. Then when I define followers of religion as being those who adhere  and practice their holy texts injunctions with full faith in it's words virtue is the prerequisite to earn the title Muslim or Christian or Jewish you say such a statement does not agree with you. There's no reason to debate with a hypocrite and if you are not one then at the least a relativist, though all the events show hypocrisy alone being in play here.

And your right dialectic was too abstract a word, something like your argument would be best served as satire after reverse analysis for a relative irony.

I should add, my point from the very get go was how flawed the parts of your message were, and that the issue has nothing to do with your prose but rather your content or to be fair your subject. I didn’t expect to do that and reveal the flaws of the messenger. (Hope you at least get the joke there.)

So what you're saying is that since you disagree with me and that Muslim nations today are violent and cause various terrorism, then not only is Islam itself inherently violent, but I'm a hypocrite.

ok. If you only look at the narrow window of the the present, then yes Islam is inherently violent. I have never said otherwise.

What I think I not only offered, but presented with logical conclusions is that this current state is not what Islam is. It is not what he Qur'an actually teaches. But, it is instead what is the culmination of a slow degradation of Islamic thought and practice into the creation of a priesthood that controls all Islamic society through fear and falsehood. It has marginalized the Qur'an to its benefit and usurped the God's word in the Qur'an with man's will in the Hadith.

This is, in reality, an exact parallel to what happened during the Dark Ages with Christianity. My connection to this time period was not to attack Christianity or make it seem bad, but to use something more people on this board would be familiar with to make a connection that modern Islam is not Islam, just like Medieval Christianity was not Christianity.

Lastly, I don't see how anything I've stated is hypocritical. Is it at odds with Islamic nations? absolutely. But its not hypocritical. I also find it funny how your initial post was all scholarly, but subsequent ones seem to be tiffed as they borderline personally insulting. Generally, that's a sign of frustration.