The Marijuana Thread: Congrats to Oregon, Alaska, and D.C.

[Joelcool7]

sapphi_snake said:

Joelcool7 said:

I can honestly say I have never tried an illegal drug or controlled substance. I also stopped drinking alchohol over a year ago. I think Alchohol should be illegal alongside marijuanna. However you are correct their is alot of money to be made in legalizing alchohol, but should we be legalizing everything just for money.

The reason alchohol became legal again was because the majority of american's were drinking it, the reason cigerettes are legal is because everyone got hooked on them and too many people were smokers before the Governments knew what they were doing. The reason pot will become legal is because a healthy minority of the population wants it so.

We live in democracies and in democracies the population makes the laws. But just because something makes you feel good, kills pain or gives you a high does not mean it should be legal. Also the majority of voters still do not want pot legal. If so many wanted it legal then their would be more protests, larger protests and more voters would vote in elections for people that want pot legal.

Just look at the Marijuanna party here in Canada, or the NDP who also want pot legal. Now look at their votes? Do they have many supporters? Not enough to even make second place in an election. Infact the Marijuanna Party has to my knowledge never even one a single seat locally, provincially or nationally.

The American people don't want pot legal, the government doesn't want pot legal. A few hippies and hill billies should not be allowed to run the country. Eventually I'm sure it will become legal much like alchohol did, but it just goes to show you how our society doesn't give a crap anymore. The minorities don't care what their addiction or usage of alchohol, marijuanna or cigerettes do to the people around them. They don't care about the inflated health bills the people they kill drunk driving the families they tear apart.

All this minority cares about is their own feelings, it makes me feel good there for I should do it.

Joel, I don't drink, never have, never will. I don't smoke, never have, never will. But I don't thik that either of these two should be illegal. People have certain freedoms, and these freedoms should be respected. I also have never done marijuana, and don't ever plan to, however I see no logical reason why it should be deemed illegal. People have a right to take substences that aren't exactly "healthy". If you're so obssessed about what is "healthy" and what is not for people, why don't you advocate for the banning of junk food?

The reason why so many are against marijuana is because of all the anti-drug propaganda and the missinformation perpetuated by the Government (you should've heard all the lies they said at the anti-drug class that was held when I was in high school). Lots of young people are for the legalising of marijuana, and their numbers are growing.

And I really disliked your whole "just because it feels good, doesn't mean you should do it argument". Homophobes use the same rhetoric when talking about gays. Do you think people should lead miserable lives? Why do people like you want people to not be able to enjoy themselves and be happy, without having to feel guilty about it? Why are you accusing all people that drink that they drive while drunk? Do you have any way to back up that claim? As for health bills, I doubt they'll be that much inflated.

Find genuine reasons why marijuana should be illegal (reasons strong enough as the reasons why murder is illegal, for example), and then we'll talk. Untill then don't go saying that X thing should be illegal, because you don't like it, and stop creating fantasy scenarios when something that isn't any of your business somehow affects you.

You took healthy out of context. I never said it should be banned because it isn't healthy. I stated the healthy minority of voters don't want it legal, I was refering to the amount of voters not the health of marijuanna. I also mentioned higher health bills but I wasn't saying that was a reason for it being illegal, just a stupid decision on the smokers behalf. What you do to your body as long as it doesn't effect others is between you and God. But when a drug like alchohol or marijuanna threaten the survival or happyness of those around you then they should be illegal. Much like here in Canada it is legal to smoke cigerettes however you can't smoke in restraunts, many parks, in out door markets and many public places. Why because it negatively effects those around you who suffer the consequences of your life choice. Take pregnant women for example many smoke and drink and then their babies come out deformed or mentally handicapped. All because that parent wanted to "Feel good".

Alot of things feel good but aren't good for you or those around you. Protection-less sex feels better then condom sex (Or so I hear all the time) yet its not good for you to go around having protection free sex. McDonalds hamburgers and fries taste amazing but they are horrible for you. The adrenaline rush you get when doing things you probably shouldn't like fighting , running from cops, robbing stores or people, that rush feels good. Doesn't mean its okay. Heroine feels good does that mean you should do it. Speeding feels good , should you speed everywhere?

I'm not saying don't do anything that feels good. But just because you enjoy something doesn't make it good. I myself have been drunk, it felt good, unless I started throwing up. Guess what I broke two cell phones and damaged several friendships through drunk messaging etc...etc... It felt good but guess what I've seen someone paralyzed by a drunk driver. I have seen families fall apart do to drinking. It should most definatly be illegal.

What you do to your body may be your buisness. But when your actions effect others then it becomes their buisness. Lets face it alchohol kills millions a year, cigerettes kill millions a year. Now as I said if they are legal then weed should be too. However that doesn't mean any of them should be.

I'm not a party pooper who thinks you should never enjoy yourself. But do so responsably as you do and I do. You not drinking , smoking or doing any narcotics, has that made your life horrible? Just because something is enjoyable doesn't mean you should do it.

Their are plenty of enjoyable things that are perfectly legal. I know several people like me who don't drink smoke or do any narcotics and I'd say they are all enjoying life. Its narrow minded to think you need to alter your brain to enjoy yourself.