Tony_Stark said:
superchunk said:
Tony_Stark said:
^ This, Christianity (which BTW is a horrible generalization since there are many sects whith very different beliefs) was full of corruption, and misguided beliefs witch really didn't lign up with the Bible's teachings when the cruisades happened, Islam on the other hand, is NOT a peaceful religion, read the Quaran, I mean actually read it, Then take what you see there, and add to it Sharia law, I'm sorry but killing "infidels" and stoning women who adulterate just doesn't seem all that peaceful to me.
BTW, two fun facts for you,
Muslims are "allowed" to lie if they do not have the upper hand in a religious debate.
In the Quaran there is a "verse" dictating that commandments which are contradictory should always default to the one in the latter part of the book.
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sooo much bs.
1. Shariah law as it is found in every Islamic nation relies almost entirely on Hadiths. That's where all that extremism comes from, not the Qur'an or Islam itself.
2. Muslims are not allowed to lie. Show me a Qur'anic verse claiming such. In fact the Qur'an says multiple times that instead of arguing about religion with others, you should simply say "peace with you. You believe as you wish and I as I wish." (Maybe I should follow this guidance...)
3. This last one makes absolutely no sense. The Qur'an is not laid out chronologically. Parts that came out very early in Muhammad's life are mixed all over the place with parts that came out very late. If you read the Qur'an you can easily see this in that the chapters jump all throughout the early Muslim history. Abrogation is a hot topic for this very reason as there is no chronological order. Additionally, I don't see a point in the Qur'an where abrogation is really relevant. I think it refers to previous holy books, not the Qur'an in itself.
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So much BS? Get off your high horse, your entire OP was highly condescending and intolarant. Calling people ignorant just because they don't agree with your misguided opinions is NOT ok.
1. Doesn't matter, the fact that amost every, if not every Muslim "sect" adheres to Sharia law in some form or another, and fact of the matter is, Sharia law have VERY close ties to Islam, Therefore my point still stands.
2. This came from an x-muslim who was very well versed in the Quaran. According to her, A muslim can lie as long as it does not "offend" Allah. Give me a Quaran and I WILL find the verses (apparently there are several, not just one.)
3. Clearly you did not understand what I said, there is a verse in the Quaran that dictates that if there are conflicting verses in the Quaran, the one in the latter part of the Quaran is to be adhered to, this has nothing to do with chronological order, and everything to do with the locations of verses in the Quaran.
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