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Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:

For the record, in 2007 a Wii cost $1000 dollars in Brazil.  (American dollars.)  1800 for the PS3.

With games ranging between $200-$300

Per Capita Income of Brazil?

$5,052.

So... not really that affordable for the middle class.  Though I was off on the price.  It's more like half a months salary.  Which is still, you know ridiculious.  Guess the Brazilian people I know are a bit poorer then average.  Not that surprisng considering their gini coefficent.

Of course that's probably why they import from the US so much, but you can't quite drive up the US every time you wanna pick up a new game.

Like I said the high price of the console actually makes it so that those that can afford it can afford games after its purchase...


No, it doesn't.

High costing products = less money to spend because you had to save up for the console.

If you think otherwise... I'd suggest you've never actually known too many people who were poor.

Besides, you were talking about the "Middle class".

That IS the middle class.

I'm pretty sure that if you are poor, saving up to purchase a gaming console is the last thing on your mind...

So obviously the owners of console in countries like Brazil are not among the poorest...

So in otherwords...

you don't know many poor people. 

Or really in this case, middle class people but their is a ridiculious 60% tax on imports.

I mean, gaming is a LOT of peoples main hobby.  You don't think people are willing to save up for their main hobby?


I mean,  your europeon ticket prices may not be the same there, but you should see what people here spend on season tickets and the like, or the kind of nice cars a lot of people have that live in crappy apartments.

People are willing to save up for stuff, as long as they know once they've reached that entry cost, they won't have to pay much more.

You need to stop looking at things with your american point of view.

For starters poor people in the rest of the world don't access to credit the way american people do ( so they aren't buying stuff they can't afford, the idea of personnal bankrupcy is a very american one that isn't widespread in the rest of the world.). ( thank god, we don't need another housing crash).

PS : I have been living in Colorado for 11 years so I have a pretty good idea what season tickets cost and how many people have nice cars they can't afford.

 


"American point of view"?

I'm talking about what people in Brazil tell me... and what i've read from Brazil.

So it's a Brazillian point of view.

The market is all blackmarket and piracy because the prices are too high.  Occasionally with buying a console from the stores at full price then hacking it.

 

Example article I just found

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26645/Analysis_Inside_Brazils_Video_Game_Ecosystem.php

 

Apparently Brazil USED to be a great place to buy games... till the prices went all insane.  Now it's just buy the consoles and piracy.  How do you stop piracy?  By offering software at a price that people want to buy it at.  How do you raise piracy, by having unreasonable prices that people aren't going to buy it at.  It's that simple.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_201/6059-A-Nation-of-Pirates

Intersetingly they have different numbers money wise then the Per Capita GDP... and hilarious alarmism.