phinch1 said:
fordy said:
phinch1 said:
fordy said:
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:
And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?
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Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.
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It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law
You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way
I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?
You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it
ffs sake people grow up
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Seriously, if you had at least half a brain, you juuust might be dangerous.
Now, let me tell you where your argument falls flat on it's face. See any resemblance to the examples that you provided? No? They're government regulated. Government regulate certain things for public interest.
Sony wanting to claim a sold PS3 as theirs is known as a CORPORATE INTEREST. Some laws are in place to protect corporations, yes (contract binding, copyright etc), but it is unlawful for Sony to claim ownership of your PS3 and regulate it in their interests. That is borderline monopolistic.
The police and courts aren't Sony's personal attack dogs, and you should not be promoting that they are. Spreading idiocy only creates more idiots.
By the way, owning a house but still not being able to do certain things does not mean that you don't OWN the house. Sony are going for PS3 ownership, much like software licensing, you will have to buy a "PS3 license" which means you're allowed to rent a PS3 for use from Sony.
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I never said that you don't own the house, I said you just can't do what you want with it...well technically you could, but if you get caught you'd be done for breaking the law, much like the case for modding the ps3 software
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Once again, corporate interest. The only corporate interest that the law enforces are binding contracts, copyright etc. It's why we live in a Democracy, and not a Corporate Oligarchy
The software was actualy modded with the PS3 Update program, too, so it would be difficult to charge them with that.
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ok, back to my point which you didnt answer, is it ok in every case to say "it's my property ill do what i want with it" even if it breaks rules/laws that end up with you in court, is that statment a mature excuse/response to say to the judge?
i just want a simple yes or no
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You're not attempting to corner me with a loaded question.
Are you really that stupid, or do you need the whole analogy explained to you again? Read my original reply 2 points back where you only replied on the bottom paragraph, but not the rest that completely dismissed your argument.
It's not okay in EVERY case, but until I see ADEQUATE proof that he broke government laws (not corporate laws), then the argument can not stand.
