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Squilliam said:
A203D said:

But the Wii has successfully beaten the PS3 and 360 in all 3 major regions. i wouldve said the Wii is about the same power as the orginal Xbox (although i'm not claiming to know).

my point is that, the mass consumer dosent care or understand hardware specs. but theres a multitude of scenarios that can play out. for example Microsoft dosent support blu ray, meaning that PS3 still holds a significant advantage if the 720 dosent come with blu ray.

if Microsoft release a new console soon then they could place themselves in a Saturn/Dreamcast scenario.


Overall you seem to have your wires crossed, let me explain.

1. Consoles built on old processes and then shrunk onto new nodes aren't nearly as efficient as consoles developed with modern fabrication techniques and semicondictor designs, you can cue the NGP here if you wish. Where the PS3 is using a 512Mb chip a next generation console can use a 2Gb or 4Gb chip which means each RAM chip installed has between 4-8 times the capacity for similar cost. Where the PS3 has a 25GB/S memory bus a modern console can easily have twice to four times that bandwidth for the GPU alone.

2. Blu Ray players are cheap regardless, you can get one for $130 at Best Buy so its hardly going to be an important factor if Nintendo or Microsoft use the player but don't enable movie playback.

3. Whilst they may not care about technical specifications they do care about user experience. A next generation console from Nintendo is unlikely to be just a PS3 Full HD to the PS3s Wii HD. It is also unlikely that the PS3 with Move could out compete a full next generation console which is more than just a half step different from it and entirely focused on a single interface.

4. Releasing a new console six years after the launch of the previous console wouldn't kill any console manufacturer. There are more than enough early adopters to support a new console even if most people aren't ready to transition until well past 2012.

yeah, but bluray player for that cheap a shit.

ps3 is still one of the most affordable bluray player around, and its also the 2nd best bluray player there is, the best one is more than twice the cost.