Islam is not bad, too many of you are ignorant of history.

[sapphi_snake]

Booh! said:

sapphi_snake said:

Slimebeast said:

If that's your view then just stay out of discussions such as these please. With all due respect.

I mean even if you believe all religion is man made (and that's perfectly okay to believe), you still have to take them for what they are and be able to analyze them as philosofies and acknowledge their differencies and different implications for society.

You are a decently smart guy Sapphi, I expect more from you.

While they may have different "philosophies" (not that they're meaningful or interesting in any way), in the end most religious beleivers aren't intelligent enough to critically analize the teachingds of their religions, and resort to a superficial analysis and blindly following people percieved to be religious leaders.

At the end of the day the best route is ignoring religious and promoting secularism. It works very well for Western countries.

I'm not sure about this. For sure religion worked very well for western countries (probably the most bigoted nation ever existed in the history of Christianity was Victorian England in the 19th century), but since secularism became prominent only for the last 50 years, we've yet to see its effects to a full extent. Eastern Europe was secularized well before Western Europe and it didn't gain much from it.

It's different in Easter Europe. First of all it wasn't secularism, but rather state atheism; second of all most of the people remained very religious (Eastern Europe is Europe's "Bible Belt" today).

Eastern Europe was also didn't experience the Reneissance and the Enlgihtment the same way Western Europe did (in other words it's actually behind the times compared to Western Europe. Do you think that Western Europe was better when it was filled with fundementalists?