Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
JamaicameCRAZY said:
Kasz216 said:
JamaicameCRAZY said:
Kasz216 said:
funkateer said:
Regarding the geohot thing, what the article fails to acknowledge is that Sony is the 'Maker' here, not geohot.
Whether or not there is any legal ground for Sony is imho a bit irrelevant (who thinks the law is always fair anyway?). Even if Sony's agressive stance is smart or not is besides the point.
I feel they have the right to protect their investment, which geohot and the likes are jeopardizing. Sony has been selling their platform under cost price so that customers can afford the thing, meaning to recoup the investment by software. This investment created jobs for god knows how many people developing the platform & the content. That is why the PS3 is a closed platform. Personally I think that's a pretty compelling reason.
If geohot seriously thinks his 'efforts to avoid piracy' are enough than he's really one arrogant (or perhaps just thick and ignorant) kid. Who says his 'efforts' can not be worked around? Did he avoid a PS emulator to be ported? (Sony still sells PS1 games, mind you, so he has actually still opened the door to piracy in a way)
He distributed tools to break security, and that directly jeopardizes the bread and butter of a lot of people. So geohot, is your little hobby worth that? The industry is under enough pressure as it is, so I'd rather see him excercise his skills in a more meaningful way.
My 2cts
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Wouldn't that have been solved by... Sony not selling the PS3 for a loss. You are basically saying, Sony should be protected for making poor buisness decisions, and because tangentially something he did was used in a wrong way.
That's like saying gunmakers should be forced to store owners money because the guns they make may of been used to rob stores that don't have robbery insurance.
Laws shouldn't be crafted around poor buisness decisions.
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What would really solve it is.. Geo not trying to break security which would allow him and others access to information conected to peoples wallets/ pirate games/ steal shit. Which is illegal.
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He... didn't do that? He broke the secuirty that prevented a lot of other stuff... and then people went from their and broke into that stuff.
Well except the Credit Card shit... that's been around forever... because Sony doesn't encrypt the information it sends out... because... I have no idea why.
Regardless, it's been consistantly ruled that when a company ties the "legal" protections with the "illegal ones" they lose any right to litigation because they, not the hackers made it so that one had to be breached, to breach the other.
Unless there is a surprise ruling... they should lose on that count.
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which is Negligence/Carelessness.
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No, I think Sony did it on purpose personally. I wouldn't say they were being negligent or careless so much as they didn't care because they thought they had an unbeatable sysetm.
Though the not encrypting peoples credit card numbers was negligent and careless. They could get sued for that.
Edit: Oh, you probably meant Geohot? That's... not negligence or carelessness at all. It was probably more a case of not caring.
"They made it so that getting the full legal use out of their system is going to hurt them. It's a shame, but what can you do, I have my legal rights."
If companies tried to stop locking out the legitamite uses of hardware, maybe they wouldn't have so many problems witht he few illegitamite uses... though of course, they aren't really fighting the illegitamite uses... it's the legitamite uses they want to fight like being able to backup your own games and run third party free legal software vs having to buy stuff.
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ROFL. Did you actually read the information about the credit card information ?
The credit card information is encrypted through SSL, what more you want ? That's what happen each time you make a frigging online purchase on your PC.
The reason the guy was able to tell you what information Sony sends is that he used a CFW to see what his PS3 is sending through SSL...
So much disinformation.
Suddenly sending data through SSL become the same as not encrypting it at all...
If you don't install any CFW on your PS3 there is no way someone can break through that SSL connection and get your credit card information....................NO WAY
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Hey, if that's what the story states now. Ars Technica previously said it was completely unencrypted.
So, Sony can't be sued for neglect either... I don't see your point though... if they weren't encrypting it, even if you installed CFW, sony could be cpmsidered at fault.
