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@twestern  normally id say that you suck and dont blame the game but in this case id have to agree, this game was brutal, even though i manage to beat it, b4 the patch, ill tell ya it wasnt ez.The online is not that bad, unless you suck really bad you can compete. I usually place in the top 3, but then again i played the game alot. As for the hub world, yeah thats kind of corny. I think Sony was just trying to turn something casual and add a some more depth, iMHO i think they succeeded, I can see how some people were turned off. But i welcome the chanllenge, Mario Kart & Sonic & Sega allstars were kind of ez for me