Islam is not bad, too many of you are ignorant of history.

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mrstickball said:

Booh! said:

Catholic Church never held a theocratic rule over Europe or elsewhere: one of the main achievements of the medieval Europe was in fact the separation of the temporal power (i.e. the Holy Roman Empire) from the religious power (the Church). The balance and the separation of these two powers was the cultural basis of modern Europe.

Pretty sure the church held a great deal of power in medieval Europe. Look at the crusades: Who sanctioned and got the people to go to war with the Turks? It wasn't the kings, it was Pope Urban II.

Who sanctioned and enforced the inquisitions? If the Vatican had no power, then how did it undertake the torture of other faiths?

Was Pope Urban II the one who actually FOUGHT with armies... or was that Innocent III.

Urban held the power, but it was at the behest of the Kings, who did so because of the economic problems of being invaded.