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fordy on 23 February 2011
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The Fury said:
fordy said:
The Fury said:

If you type "Geohot PS3 Custom Firmware" into google the first link that comes up has a link that goes straight to it (or where it was), it shows video's of how to do it as well,. Did he create this CFW from scratch? All of his own work? Every line of code? Even the security code is a line of code contained in a copywrited piece of software, right?

Then you are more then likely going to repeat it again and again. This is not an arguement where you will not change people's mind. I backtracked because you quoted me, I answered that quote with my interpretation of the term 'THE PS3'.

*sigh*

The security code cannot be copyrighted. It is raw binary data. an integer if you will. People cannot copyright integers.

However, you do bring up a good point about the creation. If he created the CFW himself, then Sony doesn't have a leg to stand on (yes, even if it was encrypted with the key. The key is never *in* the package. It mathematically rearranges the data to a non-readable form to anything but the PS3.)

If it's a copy of Sony's OtherOS that they removed, well....that's a tough one. Since Sony was offering it for free, but then took it away, the courts could see that as merely replacing the service. However I'm not 100% on this part so I can't give anything definite.

You are right, it is just a code, a number string which cannot be copywrited, a smaller part of a whole, this being the firmware. His CFW he can surely be done for. And no offence to him, but he doesn't look like the type of guy that could write a entire operating system for the PS3 from scratch on his own. All Sony needed to do is get a copy of his CFW and look at the code contained within. If I were one of the Sony programmer's, I'd be annoyed this guy is taking my work and giving it out.

The OtherOS service was like an extra to people to use that allowed you to do more with your console, it allowed you to run other programs and such alike that the PS3 didn't have. It wasn't until Geohot started tampering with it to break the security on the console that Sony decided to remove it.

It's like my example I gave somewhere else about a kid with a football. Give a local kid a football so him and his mates can play on a local field, if he starts using that football to break into the local players hut on the field, I'm going to take away that football. Because of that him, his friends can no longer play, weird analogy but the gist is there. I think.


Keep in mind that CFW is interpreted by Sony's updater, which is the one that does the modifying of the OS, not Geohot himself.

Also, it doesn't take much to create a virtual session that merely accepts PowrPC instruction code. That's all that's needed to run a PowerPC version of Linux. Drivers are also neeed to run the finer parts of the hardware, but I think he has enough experience with the hypervisor drivers, which is what he started on. Mot likely he programed them himself, considering he hated the Sony ones because of how much restruction they had on the SPUs (that was the original idea to begin with).

That is a correct analogy, and it's easy to see why customers are annoyed at this. That kind of "ruined it for everyone" excuse might work on kids, but we're not kids.