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Mummelmann said:


So, basically, the Wii crowd has turned 180 degrees in their reasoing now. Where Blu-ray, HD graphics, price, hardware revisions and motion controls had no significant effect on their battle against the Wii (you know, since it targets the Blue Ocean) they are now the crucial factors in managing to outsell it?

In the last months (counting from October 1st 2010 in this case), as an example, these are significant exclusives and multiplats released for the Wii and PS3 (removed multiplats and exclusives with trivial sales since these will have no impact on hardware sales at any rate):

Wii Exclusive:

Kirby's Epic Yarn

Wii Party

Goldeneye

Epic Mickey

Donkey Kong Country Returns

Super Mario Allstars 25th Anniversary

 

Wii Multiplats:

Call of Duty: Black Ops

DJ Hero 2

Rock Band 3

Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

Tony Hawk: Shred

WWE Smackdown vs RAW

EA Sport Active 2

Harry Potter and the Deathy Hallows pt1

NFS: Hot Pursuit

Michael Jackson: The Experience

NBA Jam

Monopoly Streets

 

PS3 Exclusives:

Gran Turismo 5

Little Big Planet 2

 

PS3 Multiplats:

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow

Medal of Honor

Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Storm Ninja 2

DJ Hero 2

Fallout: New Vegas

Vanquish

The Sims 3

Rock Band 3

Star Wars The Force Unleashed II

James Bond 007 Bloodstone

WWE Smackdown vs RAW 2011

CoD: Black Ops

AC: Brotherhood

EA Sports Active 2

Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit

DC Universe Online

Dead Space 2

 

The PS3 has more multiplats but the Wii has more exclusives so the tally should be very similar in terms of impact (also, on this very page, you state that Wii AAA games move more hardware than HD AAA games). Arguably, AC: Brotherhood, Medal of Honor and Dead Space 2 are big games but, as mentioned, the Wii has more significant exclusives by far within the same time period so this is pretty much equal. The PS3 has had no price cut (then again; price doesn't matter...) in a long time, the Slim launch is old news and revisions only cause short term boosts anyway according to some (especially the Wii crowd subscribes to this belief, I'm not saying its wrong either mind you). Lastly, as is apparent from the above lists, the PS3 has had no advantage when it comes to software either lately and it still costs 50% more as well. Then why is it outselling the Wii now? What's the reason? Move?

Let's summarize; a while back you had this stance: motion controls for HD consoles are tacked on nonsense that will have no impact on the Wii, price doesn't matter, hardware revisions only cause short term boosts, Blu-ray and other nonsense has no impact on the Wii since it appeals to a different segment of the market.

Now the tune has changed somewhat: Motion controls are now a major factor and are hurting Wii sales, price matters after all (allthough, you lot are back and forth on that point, may change again tomorrow for all I know), hardware revisions cause longterm hardware sales to rise, Blu-ray and other features are now key in defeating the Wii.

The Wii does have games it can sell and brushing off marketing as something best to be avoided in any market and any form of business model is really silly. There is no good reason for the PS3 to be outselling the Wii right now.

Unless; the market and the percieved value of the consoles themselves have changed in this smartphone and tab-crazed society and multimedia, online connectivity, extra features, proper storage and higher output capability are more important than ever to succeed (or keep on succeeding in Nintendo's case) and "future proofing" your product might not be bad at all. Oh, and marketing, one of the cornerstones of any commodity or service is pretty damn important and not to be ignored and perhaps even seen as paramount.

You misunderstand. These hardware factors I mentioned are much more important to Sony and MS in getting THEIR userbase, because their games do not sell as well as Wii's, and the people they target (so called hardcore gamers) care more about these things.

Wii on the other hand has always been reliant purely on the strength of the library. It can make it (NSMB, Wii Fit, Mario Kart), or break it (Wii Music, Animal Crossing, Metroid Other M). You live by the sword, you die by the sword.I have always said the Wii just needs more games. I have never wavered from that.

Right now, MS and Sony has pulled out all the stops in their hardware features, despite their games still not performing exceptionally well comparitively speaking, and this is enough to keep pace with the Wii, because Wii has no games right now to keep it going. If Nintendo emulated these same hardware features/strategies (price cuts, redesigns, accessories, etc) it would not affect them as much. Again, HD consoles rely more on them because their games don't sell as well, or at least don't push consoles as well. They don't really have the evergreen titles, and most of the time they fall like a rock to the bottom of the charts, even the high selling ones. If they didn't have ample third party support to keep the games going frequently, they'd be in trouble.

And note, I never said these factors (price cuts,redesigns, etc.) HURT the Wii. Just that it helps THEM pull ahead of the Wii. The only reason for Wii sales decline is Nintendo (and third parties) not releasing any games for it currently.

GAMES are what move consoles, this is true for all, but especially for Nintendo consoles. If it were not, Wii would not have sold 85 million.